That verse, which comes from Revelation 6 is a description of the famine which comes early in the Tribulation. According to the NIV study Bible, we read:
"Wheat...barley. One quart of wheat would be enough for only one person. Three quarts of the less nutritious barley would be barely enough for a small family. Famine had inflated prices to at least ten times their normal level."
According to Jesus: "There will be famines and earthquakes in various places" (Matthew 24:7)
"There will be great earthquakes, famines and pestilences in various places, and fearful events and great signs from heaven" (Luke 21:11)
This leads to yet another article predicting this scenario:
Food prices rocket by 50% as global hunger epidemic causes riots and famines
The increase will be triggered by the exploding world population, rising cost of fuel and increased competition for water, according to a leading Government think-tank.
Spiralling food prices will push hundreds of millions of people into hunger, trigger mass migration and spark civil unrest, the report warned.
Global food prices are already at a record high. Last month the price of cereals, sugar and meat soared on the world’s markets after a series of crop failures caused by bad weather.
At the same time, climate change will increase the risk of droughts, floods and crop failures – creating a ‘perfect storm’ of food shortages and above-inflation rises in prices.
Professor John Beddington, the Government’s chief scientific adviser, said the food system was failing.
‘Firstly it is unsustainable, with resources being used faster than they can be naturally replenished,’ he said.
‘Secondly a billion people are going hungry with another billion people suffering from “hidden hunger”, whilst a billion people are over-consuming.’
Worsening famine will be coming on the earth, exactly as predicted by biblical prophecy. Just like the other signs, this one too is marching along - right into the Tribulation.
Is the media hiding how severe the problems are and will be? Is this another thing that they are told to keep under wraps?
for months, it seems like everytime I go buy groceries...they go up in price. but, I'm the only one complaining. are people just not noticing?
Oh Lord, please call us to our heavenly HOME!!
Still waiting on a 7 year "Peace Treaty"?
Or has the "birth pangs" prior to great tribulation started already?
Didn't Christ warn us, by saying to the Church that He is coming at a time we do not expect? (Matthew 24:44)
There are those among us who are expecting to "see" certain things; when they are already happening.
We already have a "confirmed" Covenant with Many - in the ENP(I); we already have a 10 Nation Confederacy, in the Revived Roman Empire - that being the WEU; we have the signs, and/or "birth pangs"; we have the "falling away" - and we have a man who is associated with the number 666, who ROSE to power after the 10 Nation Confederacy was established; and is now "hidden" and is responsible for "confirming" this Covenant with Many - and guess what? It's for a period of 7 years.
All we are waiting for is for him to be officially "revealed" then we will be Raptured!
Please WAKE UP Body of Christ!
The 'many' refer specifically to the nation of Israel, today we would say 'the majority'(IN ISRAEL) To date there has been NO confirmation of a covenant with Israel.
By your reckoning the two witnesses should be right this second witnessing in Jerusalem. The 144,000 Jews from Israel should also be witnessing.
The Temple should be up and running.
The 'Restrainer' of lawlessness should be removed and worldwide anarchy rife.
These clearly stated events aren't happening, because you are wrong!
Get a grip!
You may want to check your facts before you comment on such things, that you apparently know absolutely nothing about. The ENP(I) is a Covenant signed with Israel; as a matter of Fact they were the very first country to sign it.
As for your other thoughts, as far as things that you expect to see - all I can say is that you apparently are guilty of reading into Scripture; as such requirements that you have listed are either not necessary for prophecy to come to past; or they come at a later time during "great tribulation". As far as the Two Witnesses - how can you possibly imagine that you will see them on the very 1st day of their Ministry, as if they will be standing there with signs on their foreheads - or holding up signs for that matter to identify who they are?
Quit being so closed-minded, and open up your thoughts to other suggestions. If you had all of the answers right now, you probably would have the ability to back up your thoughts with Scripture, and be a bit more diplomatic about your respones.
Perhaps you should be more diplomatic with your false prophesying and scare mongering, then I wouldn't have to be so un-diplomatic!
Rev.11:3And I will give power to my two witnesses, and they will prophesy one thousand two hundred and sixty days, clothed in sackcloth."
5. And if anyone wants to harm them, fire proceeds from their mouth and devours their enemies. And if anyone wants to harm them, he must be killed in this manner.
6.These have power to shut heaven, so that no rain falls in the days of their prophecy; and they have power over waters to turn them to blood, and to strike the earth with all plagues, as often as they desire.
I just thought that the ‘doom and gloom’ merchant Mr Tribulation should take a close look at the above verses. This BEGINS at the start of the 7 years for 1,260 days exactly, which is the first half of 3 1/2 years/ 42 months when Jesus breaks the first seal on the scroll and a/c spurs on the white horse; when there is NO restraint against lawlessness, meaning worldwide anarchy.
I think we would have all noticed by now, if two blokes, dressed in designer sackcloth were standing in the middle of Jerusalem, by the rebuilt Temple, with bazooka breath killing willy, nilly, hither and yon.
In those 3 ½ years NO rain will fall (tell that to Australia and Brazil). Certain rivers will be running with blood and the earth battered with plagues when it suited the mood of the two witnesses. That’s just for starters.
As I said, I really do think it would have been on News at Ten!
My deepest apologies if you deem my comments are offensive.
Everything that you have posted are "assumptions" on your part. If you could "see" everything that was prophesised to happen at it's exact point, then you would know the exact day when the Lord will Return.
How about quit reading into Scripture, and let it speak for itself. And quit letting others interpret Scripture for you. Read, and ask the Lord for Understanding. Don't be afraid that He is about to come.....He has already stated that He is coming like a "theif in the night", so you with all your doubt, and misinterpretations, may want to get your house in order.
Oh and by the way Genius......there is no such thing as a 7 year Tribulation. Thought you may want to add that with all your facts.
First of all, I don't want to come across as condescending or paternalistic, but I call it like I see it (in as Godly way as possible).
I just went back and read through this and these are my honest thoughts:
- Anon, I thought you came on kind of strong, right out of the gate. Even that first comment seemed kind of aggressive and sarcastic. Then, up above, with the "Genius" thing. Come on, thats kind of unnecessary.
- I don't agree with your view on many things above. And frankly, I didn't want to enter in, for fear of engaging and facing the emotion coming out. I think we lose our witness when we have discussions like that.
- If I was willing to take the time required, and spend an afternoon, I honestly feel that I could refute much of what you are saying, scripturally, but frankly, it doesn't matter to me enough to do that - as I probably wouldn't change your mind anyway. Thats fine - I am cool with that. Or at least I could confirm why one can't be absolutely, 100% sure about certain things - But we should be able to discuss these things in a professional manner.
- For some reason, and I'm not sure why, I sense a lot of anger from many prophecy groups who stray from what they considered as "main-line" prophecy (for lack of a better term)...I'm not sure why that is,..For instance, I had many private discussions with Herb Peters about that very thing. There must be some reason, I'm not sure what it is.
But we don't have time for this anymore. The main thing is to inform people that the end is approaching and we need to worry about salvation for the lost, and preparing to meet Christ - up front and in person. Thats more important that arguing with brothers and sisters in Christ.
- Lets discuss with a spirit of love. I know Sue and she is one of the most inoffensive, good natured persons I have come across and I love her dearly. I love you to, as you have a passion for prophecy and it means a lot to you --- I'm already in your camp for that alone.
Lets shake hands - after all, we're going to have eternity to discuss these matters - might as well do it the right way :)
Hello Scott and Anonymous
Reaching out over the Pond.
I was far too tired when I paid a late call at Scott's ‘surgery’ last night. I had already written quite a bit for ‘Last Day’s Watchman’ about the dangers taught by false prophets.
So, the last thing I needed to see was un-necessary scaremongering. I am not aggressive, but I have been told to watch my writing – I may be laughing, but it doesn’t show up on the screen.
My reaction is based upon concern for the vulnerable believer. When we are gone from here in the Rapture, then in comes the SEVEN years as in Daniel 9’s
70th WEEK. I seriously, seriously believe there will be a spate of suicides across the world. It will be too late for them to come to faith via the message of the two witnesses, and the 144,000, and those people, by hastening their deaths ‘in fear for what is coming upon the world to destroy it’ will pass into a Christ-less eternity. That will be THEN!
NOW! By ignoring the Biblical layout set in the prophetic Word, vulnerable souls are in danger of believing these notions of ‘we are IN the Tribulation’ and ‘spot the a/c’ and end their lives out of fear and desperation. In my opinion, this is hysterical nonsense, and totally irresponsible and needs to be curtailed.
The day IS coming; we are NOW feeling the ‘Braxton Hicks’ the ‘practice contractions’ or ‘false labour’ at the beginning of the birth pangs. (You may have another name for it in the U.S?) I have always said that with these ‘gripes’ I could have got on with the work, washed up and made the bed. However, when the ‘waters broke’ all I wanted to do was lay down on the bed as labour advanced toward the faster, harder,last stage pains.
The removal of the ‘Restrainer of lawlessness’ as the first seal is broken may well be when the ‘waters break’ and the labour properly gets underway for the first 3 ½ years of or 1,260 days X 2; or 42 months X 2 = 7 prophetic years of 360 days. Those birth pangs are going to be VERY, VERY obvious to the whole world.
I wholeheartedly agree. I apologize for my behavior. One's view on the timing of the Rapture has absolutely nothing to do with one's Salvation.
I apologize to you, and whomever I may have offended.
You may already know, but I have only just realised the view of ‘no 7 yr Trib’ comes from the ‘Historicists’ position (is that preterism?)who believe Jesus’ ministry of 3½ yrs, fulfilled the first 3½ years of Daniel’s 70th Week of years.
I am not going to attempt the calculations using known dates with the Julian Calendar, so that aside, using other Scriptural evidence such as the ‘Triumphal Entry’, I am satisfied that the complete 70th Week of Years is still a FUTURE event.
I am nonplussed no longer :D praise the Lord!
Thanks Anon - and Sue. Both of you guys are awesome, and I can't wait to see you in New Jerusalem!
Stamping Out Harold Camping
I don't care a fig for date-setters, especially those who predict when Christ will return. The current champion is 89-year-old, headline-grabbing Harold Camping of Family Radio fame.
Is Second Coming date-setter Harold Camping worthy of death? He already has a zero batting average after his September 1994 prediction fizzle and, according to the Bible, is a false prophet.
Nevertheless that California shaman, who should be ashamed, claims he's found out that Christ's return will be on May 21, 2011 even though Matt. 24:36 says that no one knows the "day" or "hour" of it!
A Google article ("Obama Fulfilling the Bible") points out that "Deut. 18:20-22 in the Old Testament requires the death penalty for false prophets."
The same article reveals that "Christians are commanded to ask God to send severe judgment on persons who commit and support the worst forms of evil (see I Cor. 5 and note 'taken away')."
Theologically radioactive Harold Camping and his ga-ga groupies (with their billboards featuring "May 21, 2011") should worry about being "stamped out" if many persons decide to follow the I Cor. 5 command.
The above article concludes: "False prophets in the OT were stoned to death. Today they are just stoned!"
PS - For many years Camping was not known as a pretrib rapture teacher. But now, for $ome my$teriou$ rea$on, he seeks support from those who believe in and teach an imminent, pretrib rapture which supposedly will occur SEVERAL YEARS BEFORE the traditional SECOND COMING to earth! For a behind-the-scenes, documented look at the 181-year-old pretrib rapture belief (which was never a part of any official theology or organized church before 1830!), Google "Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty," "Pretrib Rapture Diehards" and "Pretrib Rapture - Hidden Facts." These are from the pen of journalist/historian Dave MacPherson a.k.a the "Pretrib Rapture Answerman" & the "Rush Limbaugh of the Rapture" - author of the bestselling book "The Rapture Plot," an "encyclopedia" of pretrib rapture history (see Armageddon Books).
This is an honest question from a mother of five who believes Post Trib- and not out of fear, but out of a desire to prepare: should I stock up on food and water in light of current world events?
Ha! I like that. :D
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I do know Posties who are stocking up.
I find it interesting that there are no specific instructions in the Bible for such a precaution; such as when Jesus prior warned the Jerusalem Christians to get out of the city when they saw it surrounded by armies. End time Christians do not have that caution?
It is wise to take what precautions where we can for emergencies, such as bad weather or illness, or just having something on ‘stand by’.
Seriously, can you actually afford to stock up for a growing family for seven years (or even 3 ½ years?)
What about Matt.6:9-13 The Lord’s prayer?
Vs19 Do not lay up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy and where thieves break in and steal;
That means you will also need 7 years of weapons and ammo to protect your provisions from hungry looters.
Vs.21 "For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.
Where will your heart be? Worrying about your stock pile and forgetting Jesus?
Vs25,26 Therefore I say to you, do not worry about your life, what you will eat or what you will drink; nor about your body, what you will put on. Is not life more than food and the body more than clothing?
Look at the birds of the air, for they neither sow nor reap nor gather into barns; yet your heavenly Father feeds them. Are you not of more value than they?
So the Tribulation Saints will need to actually apply their faith in these words of Jesus, that their heavenly Father knows exactly what they and their family needs at all times, not only in times of crisis.
To say we have faith is one thing; to actually make it ‘work’ is another. So from one old mum to a young one, put your family and their needs into Jesus’s arms; and BELIEVE Him and TRUST Him to keep His Word and don’t worry.
My question was to Scott, since he seems to be the only respectable person commenting here. The most important thing during this time is to love.
I apologise for 'butting in', being disrespectful and unloving.
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