Saturday, August 6, 2011

Coincidence or "Cause and Effect"?

No one can argue that the U.S. isn't declining rapidly as a world power. No one can argue that the U.S. isn't crippled economically, with no end in sight. No one can argue that current and ongoing policies aren't leading to America's demise. And it is only the beginning stages of a massive decline as the U.S. continues destructive policies.

Is there a biblical reason for this?

First, lets put some context around this:

US stripped of AAA status

The United States has lost its top-notch AAA credit rating for the first time ever.
Standard & Poors has downgraded the US to AA+ in a dramatic reversal of fortune for the world’s largest economy.

Flirting with the Great Depression 2.0

When a nation’s debt equals its entire annual gross domestic product, it is bankrupt.

When it must borrow billions daily just to meet its obligations to other nations and individuals who have purchased its treasury notes, it is has reached a point of “moral hazard” that threatens the wealth of every single citizen.

This news is bad enough for the United States of America, but it affects many other nations around the world in exactly the same way the Crash of 1929 did, leading to the Great Depression of the 1930s and putting in motion the events that led to World War II.

Does history repeat itself? Apparently so.

Seduced and Abandoned

This whole despicable display of unabashed contempt for the Constitution, for the wishes of the American people, for truth, for the rule of law, and for freedom will be, for many, the tipping point.

For opposing a law that will add at least $7,000,000,000,000.00 to our already crushing debt - and probably a lot more, given that it will surely cause interest rates on the debt to rise - a law that puts dictatorial power in the hands of a “committee” that is more like a Soviet commissariat, a law that will wreck the constitutionally mandated balance of powers regarding borrowing and spending, for opposing all this un-American, unconstitutional, fascism, we have been branded as hostage-taking terrorists.

World Markets Plunge

Stock markets plunged on Thursday (4 August) to levels last seen in 2008 at the height of the financial crisis, amid worsening concerns about the US economy and Europe's capacity to overcome their debt problems.

Wall Street recorded its worst day since December 2008, with the Dow Jones index closing down by 4.3 percent. Markets in London, Frankfurt and Milan fell by 3 to 5 percent.

America Loses AAA Credit Rating

We Americans have always thought we were different.

We thought we could launch unnecessary, imperial wars worldwide ...

While we slashed taxes for the wealthy and big corporations
While we threw trillions at our big banks
We thought that somehow we could get away with spending like a drunken sailor, while not doing anything to stabilize our economy (which in turn deepened our debt even further).

We were wrong.

Super Congress: A Financial Death Panel That Will Help The Banks Loot And Rape America

“If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property until their children wake up homeless on the continent their Fathers conquered.” – Thomas Jefferson

The power of life and death over what’s left of the American economy and the millions of people who depend on Social Security checks now rests in the hands of twelve bought off officials who will make up the new Super Congress.

According to NPR, Paul Ryan, Eric Cantor, Harry Reid, and Mitch Mcconnell could be tapped to serve as the top destroyers of America, taking direct orders from the criminal bankers on Wall Street.

The Super Congress will use dictatorial powers to bypass constitutional checks and balances and ram through a fascist agenda through the Congress under the flawed premise that they are bringing the fiscal house in order.

OK, I'll stop there. There are literally hundreds of articles describing the downfall of America and the ramifications of such on the entire world.

The point is made.

Why is this happening?

Could this have to do with our attempts to force Israel to shrink into indefensible borders, which would lead to complete destruction of this tiny country?

Remember what God said about this issue?

"I will make you into a great nation
and I will bless you.

I will make your name great,
and you will be a blessing.

I will bless those who bless you
and whoever curses you I will curse"

Genesis 12:2-3

This is an unequivocal, unconditional statement that applies to all nations for all time. Period. No exceptions.

The EU is no better than the U.S. in terms of supporting Israel, in fact, they are worse, and look at what is happening to the EU right now - but that's another story for another day.

Is the U.S. really abandoning support for Israel? Is the U.S. really attempting to shrink Israeli into borders which are indefensible?

Lets allow Caroline Glick to answer that one:

Obama's only policy

This is a long read, but necessary to make the point regarding Genesis 12 and the U.S.

Here are a few germane points:

Israel has no one to negotiate with because the Palestinians reject Israel's right to exist. This much was made clear yet again last month when senior PA "negotiator" Nabil Sha'ath said in an interview with Arabic News Broadcast, "The story of 'two states for two peoples' means that there will be a Jewish people over there and a Palestinian people here. We will never accept this."

Given the Palestinians' position it is obvious that Netanyahu is right. There is absolutely no chance whatsoever that Israel and the PA will reach any peace deal in the foreseeable future. Add to this the fact that the Hamas terror group controls Gaza and will likely win any new Palestinian elections just as it won the last elections, and the entire exercise in finding the right formula for restarting negotiations is exposed as a complete farce.

So why is Israel engaging in these discussions?

Good question. Why would Israel engage in discussions which are ultimately intended for their complete destruction?

It makes no sense.

The only logical answer is to placate US President Barack Obama.

Let that reality sink in for a few minutes.

And take a look at U.S. demands upon Israel in the context of Genesis 12:

These demands include abandoning Israel's position that it must retain defensible borders in any peace deal with the Palestinians. Since defensible borders require Israel to retain control over the Jordan Valley and the Samarian hills, there is no way to accept the 1949 armistice lines as a basis for negotiations without surrendering defensible borders.

Yet, that is exactly what U.S. policy is dictating.

Obama uses US power and leverage against Israel in order to force Israel to bow to his will.

What makes Obama's Israel policy notable is not simply that it involves betraying the US's most steadfast ally in the Middle East. After all, since taking office Obama has made a habit of betraying US allies.

Obama's Israel policy is notable because it is a policy. Obama has a clear, consistent goal of cutting Israel down to size. Since assuming office, Obama has taken concrete steps to achieve this aim.

And those steps have achieved results. Obama forced Netanyahu to make Palestinian statehood an Israeli policy goal. He coerced Netanyahu into temporarily abrogating Jewish property rights in Jerusalem, Judea and Samaria. And now he is forcing Netanyahu to pretend the 1949 armistice lines are something Israel can accept.

These statements aren't "political", they are facts.

Caroline Glick then shows the paradox of our administration not having a coherent policy anywhere else in the Middle East, which has effectively led to the rise of radical Islam in the region, unabated, including the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt and now Syria.

But when it comes to Israel things are different.

The closing paragraph is seen below:

If nothing else, the waves of chaos, war and revolution sweeping through Arab lands make clear that the Arab conflict with Israel is but a sideshow in the Arab experience of tyranny, fanaticism, hope and betrayal. So it says a lot about Obama, that eight months after the first rebellion broke in Tunisia, his sole Middle East policy involves attacking Israel.

So. Rather than support Israel as they face almost insurmountable odds of survival (although we know that God will directly intervene, leading to Israel's survival) - the U.S. policy is consistent with the terrorist groups, Iran, Russia, the EU, the Muslim Brotherhood, and all other groups who are attempting to destroy Israel.

How does God view this?

Genesis 12:2-3 reveals this.

So, is it a coincidence that the U.S. is experiencing its most tenuous period in history?

is it a coincidence that the U.S. defense budget is being radically cut?

Is it a coincidence that the U.S. is rapidly falling as a world power?

Is it a coincidence that the U.S. is on the cliff of complete financial breakdown, leading to another great depression?

Is it a coincidence that the dollar will be replaced as the world's central currency?

Is it a coincidence that the U.S. and the EU are on parallel courses in their demise?

I'll let the reader draw his/her own conclusions.

But sometimes connecting the dots is painfully simple. 2+2=4. If A=B and B=C, then A=C.

God was extremely clear and unambiguous in His declaration in Genesis 12:2-3. And as stated above, this was an unconditional statement that was intended to apply to all nations for all times. No exceptions.

And we cannot forget that God often uses kings and nation's leaders to accomplish His goals, as there are many examples of such. King Nebuchadnezzar and the Babylonian Empire immediately comes to mind. In these situations, the arguments of whether God "allows" such kings to accomplish His purposes or whether God directly influences these selected leaders is irrelevant.

The U.S. is aiding and assisting in attempts to divide Israel and Jerusalem, and to shrink her borders - placing Israel in their most precarious position since 1948.

And let us not forget Zechariah 12:3:

"And when all the nations of the earth are gathered against her, I will make Jerusalem an immovable rock for all the nations. All who try to move it will injure themselves."

We've heard from God.

We see what U.S. policies are doing to Israel.

You connect the dots.


Anonymous said...

Scott for President! If it were not for this ministry I would probably be drinking hemlock tea right now. Trillions of dollars have been lost globally because of this, the media is not reporting the true facts about this (or anything else). I did not get article about 10 kings submitted by Scott on last post's comment but did get it by typing 10 kings. Thank you Scott for the link.

Scott said...

Anon - thanks a ton - as I have said before, it means so much to hear comments like that and it is greatly appreciated.

As far as the 10 kings, I do see this as an opportunity to point out the pitfalls of being dogmatic on issues which require some degree of speculation (for instance, the Bible really doesn't indicate what specifically will make up the 10 kings. We only get details on their role.

Having said that - I have also learned over the years that a "wait and see" approach is far better with any breaking news.

Several years ago, before Lisbon was signed, a similar news "Spalsh" came out about the dismantling of the WEU (perhaps some others can recall the details) - and over the ensuing weeks, it leaked out that they were still together after all just in a more covert way...

And I think the Brussels Treaty is locked in regardless of the WEU's formal status.

In addition - lets remember, if the 10 Kings end up being some manifestation of the EU - it could end up being 10 countries that are consolidated and having nothing to do with either the WEU or the Brussels Treaty 10 nations.

Caver said...

Everything you say, Scott, is true. To the finest details, true beyond our scope of comprehending at this point. How awesome is that.....complete accuracy and truth both frontwards and backwards. God tells us how the nations/world will treat Israel and He tells us what will happen because of it.

But, to my little mind, this subject only scratches the surface. This subject of this post is financial and political only. As remarkable as it is, this is certainly happening, but potentially all the curses mentioned for the end of days are coming into view.....climate, earthquakes, potential signs in the heavens, famines, incurable diseases, cruelty man to man that defies description, one world government, love of self, unnatural relations of the sexes, false prophets, apostasy in the church, false religions, explosion of knowledge.....just all of it.

Most everyone is aware of one or two aspects of this but select few are connecting all the dots. Scott, this blog and your efforts are so much appreciated. Nowhere, and I do mean NO WHERE else do I find the openness and responsible discussion of all of these subjects. Your condensation of all "subjects" biblical and prophetic is so appreciated and refreshing

Scott said...

Very good points, and I was thinking those very thoughts later this morning after posting this --- all of the other calamities that have been coming our way giving a combined effect.

Many thanks brother


Anonymous said...

"'Controlled' power cuts likely as Sun storm threatens national grid

By Steve Connor, Science Editor, in Boulder, Colorado

Monday, 13 June 2011

Officials in Britain and the United States are preparing to make controlled power cuts to their national electricity supplies in response to a warning of a possible powerful solar storm hitting the Earth. In an interview with The Independent, Thomas Bogdan, director of the US Space Weather Prediction Centre, said that controlled power "outages" will protect the National Electricity Grids against damage which could take months or even years to repair should a large solar storm collide with the Earth without any precautions being taken.

Dr Bogdan is in close discussions with scientists in the UK Met Office to set up a second space weather prediction centre in Britain to co-ordinate a global response to a threat viewed seriously by both the US and UK governments. One topic of discussion is how to protect national electricity grids from the immense power surges caused by the geomagnetic storms which happen when highly energetic solar particles collide with the Earth's magnetic field.

The most vulnerable parts of the grid are the hundreds of transformers connected to power lines many miles long that can experience sudden current surges during a geomagnetic solar storm, Dr Bogdan said. "It points to a potential scenario where large parts of either North America or northern Europe may be without power from between days or weeks, to perhaps months and, in extreme cases, there are estimates that it could last years," Dr Bogdan said.

The aim of the joint US-UK collaboration is to improve solar weather forecasting to a point where it is possible to warn power companies of an imminent storm. There is a feeling that if a "category 5" solar storm – the biggest of the five categories – were to be predicted, then taking the grid off-line before it is due to hit Earth and letting the storm pass would be better than trying to keep things running, he said.

In 1989, a solar geomagentic storm knocked out the electricity grid across large parts of Canada. The loss cascaded across the United States and caused power problems as far away as California. The greatest fear is a massive storm as big as the one documented by astronomer Richard Carrington in 1859, which burnt out telegraph wires. (cont'd)"

Thanks to WEDG for the link.

hartdawg said...

mom went to be with the lord early this morning.

gearedup2go said...

Hart, I'm really sorry for your loss. My prayers are with you.

gearedup2go said...

China is now stating that the days of the US borrowing money is over.

I believe we will see this nation crumble faster than Greece. We're going to see the domino effect like never before in history. Whatever comes from this we know that God works all things for the good. We have this fellowship here to remain encouraged and we are not to fear. I have experienced God's intervention during the greatest trials in my life and He has always, always provided abundantly. Oh taste and see that the Lord is good.

Anonymous said...

I have a question regarding 2 Thessalonians 2:1-6. In particular verses 3 &4

(3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.)

This is talking about the Antichrist right? or wrong?..If it is, does that mean that we will be here when the antichrist is revealed?

I always thought we would be taken before then. Can someone give me input into these scriptures.

Thank you so much..and God bless you all.

One more thing. Has anyone heard of or read the book by James M. Efird.."How to Interpret the Bible"

He is or was a Professor of Biblical Languages and Interperetation at Duke, and an ordained minister. But, his writings about the Bible, disturbs me as he interprets many things so very differently that we do.(such as antichrist, 666 number, and 144,000 just to name a few.

You know it is so frustrating to me, as a new Christian to think I have everything figured out, and then have a new way of interpreting the bible. How do we know what is the correct interpretation of scriptures?

Anonymous said...

I remember once a prophesy teacher a few years ago said that Tony Blair has everything that could make him the antichrist. Hmm..I wonder.

Caver said...

hartdawg, I am so sorry. But you know, your reunion is going to be real soon.

Our prayers are with you.

Alice said...

Anon, about 2 Thess 2, I just watched Gary Stearman's discussion on this. Here is the link:

He (and many others) believes we are most definitely taken out before the AC is revealed. Scholars believe the "falling away" ("apostasia" in the Greek, I think) should be read as "the departure" if translated accurately. Hope this helps!

Hart, you are in my prayers, as well.

Scott said...

So sorry for your loss. You will be reunited soon though, that you know for sure. You're in our prayers.

Caver said...

Anon, as Alice said above, the words seem pretty clear. Another definition I've heard is the "snatching away" or "snatching up".

Either way, we ain't here.
We're where we've lived our entire Christian lives to get to. We win!

Anonymous said...









mr. hart, i hope u are ok...
i know HOW it feels, i cried for
weeks after my dog died in 2002 June, her name was Silver.


Tasarwen said...

hartdawg, I am so very sorry to hear of your loss. *big hug*

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GG said...

Dear Hart-

I am sorry for your loss today. Soon enough my dear friend you will get to introduce her to us all. Thinking of you...

God Bless!!


Anonymous said...

Mr. Hal Lindsey speaks about the WEU near the end of his 8/7/11 report:

Jec said...

Scott, very interesting post! It's not hard to see where we are heading. I just wish our president could feel the effects of his own policy. He will some day, but for now, he is heartless and narcissistic and has zilch empathy toward this country or the sticky situation he is placing Israel in. People just can not put 2&2 together this side of the Rapture. It will only take the pre-trib rapture to bring more pain and suffering followed by the Tribulation period for a wake-up call any kind of repentance preemptive of a knuckle bump from a 100lb hail stone along all the other judgements coming.

Hart-I'm sorry for you loss and am praying for ya.

Jec said...

Some additional thoughts: a financial collapse of biblical proportions could not happen right now could it? It would last for years to come. I just don't see it? Many people believe we are heading for a quick total collapse of the world's financial system and then who knows, emerge into a one world financial system? I can't see this happening as it's got to be some kind of controlled collapse, and hopefully after the rapture. Thoughts?

Also, I'm so tired, wife and I need major dental work, the misses is diseased and getting weaker and being uninsurable, and I'm worn out trying to keep the business
going. I just want to go home but don't want to arrive at the banquet table hungrier than a wart hog with a few snaggle teeth sticking out. Oh wait! We will be changed in a heart beat, it's all coming clearer and clearer now!

Scott said...

We'll have our glorified bodies in the twinkling of an eye!

Almost everyone I know is struggling right now; I can't think of any exceptions. So you aren't alone, if that helps any.

As far as the collapse, I believe it is a process - one that is already well underway...If there is a "cliff" at some point, I don't know. It may be more like a series of steps, but I do believe that this will ultimately lead to a unified single system with a single currency. We know that is what Soros wants.

And that will aid and assist in making there a one world MOTB system, with a single leader. This is part of the process IMO.

BWest said...

Hart, I'm truly sorry for your loss. God bless.

WVBORN56 said...

I'll be praying for you and your famly Hartdawg at the loss of your mother. I agree with others, I think we will indeed be seeing her soon via the rapture. God Bless.

Scott thanks for the "coincidence" blog today. Excellent thoughts and points. Praying for Israel and the protection of the saints here and abroad.

What does everyone thing the DOW will do Monday? How far will it drop?

DrNofog said...

Not a loss... a gain [as Paul said]! She's better than you are now! We'll all be there together soon!

Jec said...

Anyone read the opinion piece on ynet, "Did you see it, Netanyahu?"

Its amazing the amount of people who showed up to rally for social justice. I think this maybe just the beginning of something big for the Jewish people. Everyone was so cool, calm and collective with one mouthpiece.

Such a stark difference from Syria! In Syria, I could be wrong, but if there is just a hint of opposition coming from a certain city, well you better go in hiding because the military will going into that city and start shooting the place up with many people being killed.

ynet piece here:,7340,L-4105327,00.html

Jec said...

WVB, here you have the very first of any market to open up with huge jitters:

TA Stock Exchange falls after S&P cuts US credit rating

"There was enormous tension Sunday morning on the Tel Aviv Stock Exchange, the first market to open worldwide after S&P announced that it was downgrading the US credit rating from AAA to AA+. The TASE was expected to fall sharply both because of the downgrading but also because of losses on global markets Friday when the Israeli exchange was closed. The Tel Aviv 25 Index was down 6.5 percent in the opening hour to 1079.13 points."

story here:

This may be the beginning of the world financial economic collapse many expect to see. I don't expect to see it, which means to me that we are that much closer to the Rapture. Wow, my mind is spinning trying to gather my thoughts in an orderly fashion on a piece of paper to those around me, sharing, exposing, revealing through scripture what is to come. Praying for all of you, to stay close to Him, setting our hearts and minds on Christ Jesus:

Hebrews 12:1-2 Therefore we also, since we are surrounded by so great a cloud of witnesses, let us lay aside every weight, and the sin which so easily ensnares us, and let us run with endurance the race that is set before us, looking unto Jesus, the author and finisher of our faith, who for the joy that was set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.

I'm beginning to see the red tape up a head, the finish line is approaching, praise be to God!

James said...


What can I say. First let me tell you that we grieve here with you because you are big part of our Christian family here.

Having lost a child and then my Father I know the depth of suffering that comes with the loss of those we love.

While God doesn't cause bad things to happen He uses them to reveal His Glory to us and in that we are comforted with not the promise of Heaven but the fact of Heaven and being reunited with all those we love.

This is a time for you to have low expectations of those who come to comfort you. They often say things like "I know how you feel" and then compare the grief you feel to that of a death of a pet or a cousin. They honestly mean well but are very detached from the very deep suffering you are going through. So remember to have low expectations for those who come to comfort you.

There are days, when I, a 45 year old man, drives down the road thinking of my Father and my Son and literally cry like a baby. I use to think that to get to Heaven I needed to believe in Christ be good and help people and I would go to Heaven to be with God. Now it's all these things to get there to be with God Dad and our son Luke. To me that is God revealing how much He loves me because not only does He love me and care for me here, He loves me so much that He is giving me eternal life with Him to feel that love forever with all those I love and who accept Him.

God bless you brother! Cling to your salvation and all your tears are going to be wiped away very very soon.

Love ya in Christ!


gearedup2go said...

Jec, amen!

gearedup2go said...

James, bless you for sharing your heartfelt thoughts. I cannot imagine the pain that you feel having lost not only your father but a child as well. I've always thought that parents are the most courageous people that I know. When we are reeling from sorrow, remember that God bottles up our tears.


James said...

Gearedup2go and Jec:

Thank you sister and brother Jec. I plan on rejoicing with Luke and my father in Heaven very soon.

I think we are in for a very big week!

God bless!


ally said...

Hart-so sorry for your loss. soon very soon we shall all be reunited :) with our loved ones who have gone before us!
James- our beloved brother...what a blessing how we share our trials and pains together here. Be blessed in the knowledge that all things have a purpose and God knows best. It is so hard to see that when we are in severe pain how that could be possible. Yet one day soon we will understand it all. And until that day we must walk by faith knowing that the Lord loves us and knows what is best for us.
I love you all very much-

James said...

Love you to Ally!