Palestinians: Netanyahu peace outline unacceptable
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's parameters for a peace deal, outlined in a speech to the U.S. Congress on Tuesday, fell far short of what is needed to resume negotiations, Palestinian officials said.
Nabil Shaath, an aide to Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas, said Netanyahu's insistence on keeping key parts of the territories the Palestinians want for their state is a "declaration of war against the Palestinians."
Netanyahu said Tuesday that he is willing to make "generous" territorial concessions, but also told Congress that Jerusalem must remain united as Israel's capital and that Israel wants to keep key areas of the West Bank where tens of thousands of Jews have settled, as well as areas of strategic importance.
Abbas is set to meet with leaders of the Palestine Liberation Organization and his Fatah movement on Wednesday to discuss their next move. The Palestinians have developed an alternate strategy to moribund negotiations, largely on hold since 2008, and have said they will seek U.N. recognition of their state in September.
Palestinian Statehood Vote Looms Over U.S.-Israel Rift
Though Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu publicly clashed with President Barack Obama on Friday and held firm in his stance Monday night, the Israeli leader still needs American help on a looming test: a proposed United Nations vote on a resolution to recognize Palestinian statehood. The vote at September's U.N. General Assembly would be mostly symbolic, and carry little legal weight.
But passage—which is expected if the resolution proceeds to a vote—would be a visible show of Israel's isolation on the international stage.der still needs American help on a looming test: a proposed United Nations vote on a resolution to recognize Palestinian statehood.
"There is panic in Israeli government political circles about the U.N. resolution in September and the U.N. is an arena where Israel has almost zero influence," said Yossi Alpher, a former Mossad officer who was an adviser to ex-Prime Minister Ehud Barak. "Netanyahu and his aides have got to be saying to themselves, 'Can I depend on American support after lecturing the U.S. president in the Oval Office?' "
That will be the single most important aspect of September's vote: What will the U.S. do?
Abbas: Netanyahu's speech had 'nothing we can build on'
PA president says if no breakthrough in peace process, he's still planning to seek UN statehood in Sept.; senior Fatah member Shaath says PM isn't serious about peace, claims Hamas seeking peace, not war with Israel
Earlier Wednesday, senior Fatah member Nabil Shaath rejected Netanyahu’s address to Congress and said that Israel's policies won’t lead to peace. Shaath accused Netanyahu of having destroyed any chances for peace, effectively waging war on the diplomatic process to bring about a final settlement.
The PA negotiator also rejected Netanyahu’s call to cancel the reconciliation agreement between Fatah and Hamas. He said that Hamas came to Fatah denouncing violence and seeking peace with Israel, not war.
That last statement would be hilarious if the stakes weren't so high. Hamas, who refuses to accept any independent Israeli nation under any circumstances, is "seeking peace with Israel". Yea, right. There comes a point where such statements insult one's intelligence.
Meanwhile:
US: Hezbollah has more missiles than most states
Hezbollah is armed with more missiles and rockets than most states, according to outgoing US Defense Secretary Robert Gates.
In a speech to the American Enterprise Institute, Gates warned against the Shiite group's arming methods and the possibility that it owns chemical and biological weapons, CNN reported Wednesday.
The US official made similar statements last year, but did not back them up with proof. "Hezbollah cruise missiles could threaten US ships with anti-ship missiles with a range of 65 miles," he added.
Two months ago, an Israeli security official provided the Washington Post with a map detailing no less than 550 bunkers, 300 surveillance sites and 100 other facilities the Jewish state believes belong to Hezbollah terrorists in Lebanon.
The weapons storage facilities are located in close proximity to medical centers and schools.
And this:
Israel: New Iranian missile likely bound for Hezbollah
A new Iranian missile test-fired on Sunday is likely intended for delivery to terror proxies of the Islamic Republic, like Hezbollah, Israeli defense analysts said on Sunday.
Iran’s Arabic-language state television channel Al Alam reported that the successful test of the new surface-to-surface missile, called Qiyam 1 (Resurrection), demonstrated the country’s self-sufficiency in mass producing weaponry.
Iran did not disclose the range of the missile, but Tal Inbar, head of the Space Research Center at the Fisher Institute for Air and Space Strategic Studies, said that the Qiyam was similar to the Scud missile, which has a range of a few hundred kilometers, makes up the backbone of Syria’s arsenal and is believed to have been transferred to Hezbollah.
Israel links EU support for Palestinians to anti-Semitism
"It's very easy to put all the blame in the world on the Jewish state. As Joschka Fischer, the former German foreign minister once put it in Israel, he said 'I cannot ignore the fact there is an old European tradition of 2,000 years to blame the Jews.' So maybe some of the animosity toward the state of Israel is a disguised [form of this], is coming from this tradition."
Palestinian diplomats say around 10 European countries, including Greece, Ireland, France, Spain and Sweden, as well as non-EU member Norway, will back the UN bid, which is planned to take place in September.
"Once it will be clear that the Arab people, including the Palestinians, really recognise Israel's right to exist as it was established as a Jewish state, then I think it will be possible to achieve an agreement," he said.
The minister described the UN plan as a "challenge to Israel's very existance" because it would bypass deal-making on questions such as the right of return of hundreds of thousands of Palestinian refugees driven out by Israeli soldiers in the 1940s.
Russians Work To Destroy Israel Through Palestinian Statehood
Russia is still manipulating anti-Israeli forces in the Middle East, just as the Soviet Union did before it.
Note that Palestinian People’s Party, mentioned below, is an unreformed Marxist-Leninist organization and the Russian Academy of Sciences was a long time tool of the KGB and the International Department of the old Communist Party of the Soviet Union.
Russia is definitely behind the formation of a Palestinian State on israel’s borders; a major stepping stone in the planned destruction of the Jewish homeland.
From Novosti:
Palestinian movements Fatah and Hamas said they appreciated the support of Russia in their efforts to reach national reconciliation and establish a sovereign Palestinian state.
Representatives of the two rival movements, which signed a reconciliation agreement in Cairo in early May, arrived to Moscow last Friday on an invitation from the Institute of Oriental Studies of the Russian Academy of Sciences.
The leaders of Fatah and Hamas, as well as of the People’s and Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine and the Palestinian People’s Party, Al-Shaabare, met with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov on Monday and agreed a joint statement with Russia.
Russia may have dropped the openly Marxist–Leninist trappings of Soviet days, but Moscow’s anti-Western foreign policy goals have changed little.
Westerners need to realize that Russia is not a moderating influence against extremism in the Middle East, but is still the key instigator of religious and political radicalism in the region
And lastly, we see this interesting perspective:
US Congress sides with Netanyahu over Obama
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's speech before the US Congress on Tuesday was seen by most Israelis as a resounding success, and as a rejection of President Barack Obama's policy speeches over the previous few days.
Speaking before a joint gathering of the House of Representatives and Senate, Netanyahu reiterated that Israel will not return to its 1967 borders, as Obama had insisted it must do for the sake of peace. The Israeli leader also adamantly restated Israel's position that Jerusalem must not be divided.
Netanyahu's strong statements won no fewer than 29 rounds of applause (26 of them standing ovations) from the lawmakers, despite the fact that he was seen to be defying the Americans' own president.
Writing for Foreign Policy Magazine, analyst Michael Cohen noted that "the idea that Congress would openly side with a foreign leader against the president of the United States seems too far-fetched to believe. Remarkably, however, something not dissimilar happened in Washington Tuesday."
Cohen said congressional leaders, both Republican and Democrat, had consciously provided Netanyahu with the most visible of public podiums from which to rebutt Obama's peace policies.
Israeli cabinet secertary Zvi Hauser told Israel Radio that what the speech also did was put the ball firmly in the Palestinians' court. "Ninety percent of the conflict will be resolved" if Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas simply recogizes Israel as the Jewish state, Hauser noted, echoing Netanyahu's own demands.
Indeed. Israel has two simple requests:
1. That they have borders which will ensure their viability as a nation and
2. They are formally recognized as a nation who has a right to exist on their own land.
Some nerve huh?
And this is considered as a declaration of war by the "Palestinians".
Doesn't this conclusively prove what their real intentions are?
Clearly.
The goal is to create borders which will facilitate the next invasion of Israel. It couldn't be more clear. There is no interest in peace - that is a smokescreen for the true intent:
The complete destruction of Israel.
Meanwhile, the politicians around the world ignore this obvious fact and continue on their path to enable these progressive means to ultimately destroy Israel.
We'll see how this works out.
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personally unless god intervenes I do not see how the fulfillment of psalm 83 can occur later then this fall... at least from humans sands point
Lord please bless Scott forever for providing this website.
A possible scenario for "the covenant":
Palestine gets a place outside of Israel and acknowledges the right of Israel to exist... as long as Jerusalem is divided, with the "carrot" for Israel being a place for the Temple.
DrNo, are you out there? I was unable to post for nearly 2 days. Kept getting a message something like "unable to redirect". Also, the blog kept loading--never seemed to stop. It was weird. Now everything seems fine... Maybe it was an issue w/my computer...
On another note...
I just can't get this thought out of my mind: the PEOPLE of the United States overwhelmingly SUPPORT Israel... And what could change that...literally in the blink of an eye???
YES! The Rapture of the Church!!!
Maranatha!
Oh please Lord come soon. Take your people to be with you forever. How I long for that day.
Great Posts today! Amen to God Bless Scott forever and Amen to the American populace and Congress for supporting Israel. Once again, THANK YOU JESUS FOR ANSWERING OUR PRAYERS! Maranatha!-ally
Hello Scott
There has been such good news of late what with Beni N and his great speech 'n all.
Presi O went down a riot in Westminster (he even made ei larf) - as did Mrs O. Answering a Q from a schoolgirl if she knew her fella was going to do great things she confided that she knew he was very 'special'. She included how he loved his mother (that hurt) and his little sister; he didn't want to be the Clerk of 'thingy' but would rather help 'CHURCH PEOPLE'instead!!! Huh?
Mind they were brave to do a Barbie at Downing Street; its a bit squat there, and titchy, couldn't help but 'rub shoulders' with the 'elite'.
Not just that, but we Brits is generally the low life in the world of Barbies. Everything gets over cooked and goes cold super quick due to our dodgy climate.
Its all been happy and smiley and as a result been missing the bad noos. Then ei comes 'ere and ya give ei the bad news to perk ei up agin - Great, its still on course for rubbish and false peace. And the Arab 'spring' is off kilter cuz their Autumn/Fall is just round the Johnny Horner.
MARANATHA!
sue :D
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ALICE - Thats what I was thinking..The Rapture changes the entire landscape dramatically and immediately.
Thanks anon :)
Sue, what did you think of Obama's "toast"? I was wondering how the British Press was carrying that story
Hart
I tend to agree with your point re: Psa 83.
I am still waiting for the revealing of the AC......
and i will wait....
as Paul said,
no AC, NO rapture.....
in 2 Thessalonians 2
we need to all be PATIENT and wait.
"I am still waiting for the revealing of the AC......
and i will wait....
as Paul said,
no AC, NO rapture.....
in 2 Thessalonians 2
we need to all be PATIENT and wait"
That is a misunderstanding of Paul's teaching in II Thessalonians 2....go back and read I Thess where Paul just taught a pre-trib rapture then when the there was upset because of great persecution in the church so Paul reminded them that they had not yet missed the rapture because they had not departed and there was no AC yet on the scene. In addition every translation before the KJV all translated the "falling away" as the departed and that is probably a much better rendering... My .02 cents
Alice! Yes, I am here ...to help ...maybe ...depending... on what you did...
What did you do?!?
You did't, prhaps by anyway, make any "disparaging" comments about Our 1st Questionable-In-Chief's "New & Improved", "Not Known to Exist previously", Internet Birth Cert. that has **computer anomalies** called "kerning" that 60s 'typewriters' can't do...
...or anything 'bout his falsely using an "expired immigrant's" [meaning 'long deceased'] Connecticut SSN when he was 'allegedly' born in Wahoowee...
I dunno Alice... lemmee look into it...
EI!! Great 2 hear you again, & great post!
Uhmm, could you re-translate all that into American "English"??
..I have no clue wut you just said...
;-D
DrNofog
If ya means wot I finks ya means - (a nod is as good as a wink) I aint passed yer international code exam!
That did my head in trying that milarcky - only to fail - Bbwahhh!:D
Scott If O did that toast at the Barbie - it was undoubtedly badly burned! I haven't been watching the State visit; I only saw the tail end when I read about it here. I only checked to see if Wills and Kate were present.
Judging by the grins and near bows and curtsies of our peeps dressed in their ancient attire at Parliament and throwing dignity to the wind - he was much appreciated.
My Hubby was enthralled by 'the Beast'. It must have had a dickens of a job going over our multitudous speed ramps (sleeping policemen). It nigh on met itself coming back on the roundabouts.
I have to say - it really tickled me - Presi and Mrs O looked like visitors from the land of the giants. HRH and Philip looked like Lilliputians by their sides. But oh my, didn't our lot 'shunkle' well. The crown jewels had all had an extra good buffing for the party.
It seemed to me that O was making amends for his bad start with the UK. He seems to have had a few attitudes knocked off since then, and came in 'the Beast' instead of on his 'high horse'! HRH has seen off more heads of state than he's had hot dinners, so he may have learned a thing or three from her?
How are YOU doing Scot? Take care!
Love and blessings
Sue
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So, Bibi's parameters for peace is just a promise not to try and annihilate them.....and that is not acceptable.
Duhhhh!
And our exalted leader just can't get his head wrapped around this?????
Seems like Obummer's a couple pickles short of a Happy Meal.
WVBORN56 don't bother explaining to Stephen. We all have responded to his belief that noone is raptured until the revealing of the anti-christ. Unbiblical and simply not true
We also have told him while we respect his beliefs that there are consequences for anyone who speculates on God's word.
We hope and pray that he will be enlightened soon.
James Dickens
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