Tuesday, April 30, 2013

Closing In On A Peace Plan?

When I first started reading about this new attempt at a "peace plan" between Israel and "the many", it didn't really register. Now, suddenly, over the last 2-3 weeks, a lot of momentum has been gained in support of these new proposals - to the point that even the Arab League has agreed in principle. 


Who knows if this will really gain enough traction to serve as the basis for "the plan" that will surely come - according to Daniel 9:27 - but any news relating to widespread support for a peace plan involving Israel is worth watching. Take a look at the flow of these articles, revealing the growing support for this version. Of course, it would essentially take Israel back to the "pre-'67 borders", which renders Israel in a very vulnerable position for future invasions. 

And of course, the pink elephant in the room, is, the question of who will step forward and "confirm" the next covenant? Movement in that direction is also of interest.




Israel and the Palestinians seemed closer Tuesday night than they have been for more than two years to a resumption of substantive peace negotiations, after both sides indicated satisfaction with an apparently American-brokered amendment to the Arab League peace initiative.


US Secretary of State John Kerry, who has spent recent weeks shuttling around the Middle East as well as meeting relevant players in Washington, also sounded fairly upbeat in comments Tuesday. He said there were still hurdles to clear, but “I don’t think you can underestimate… the significance of Saudi Arabia, Qatar, [United] Arab Emirates, the Egyptians, the Jordanians, and others coming to the table and saying, ‘We are prepared to make peace now in 2013.’”






A senior Israeli official told The Times of Israel on Tuesday night that the government of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu was pleased with and welcomed the steps to advance the peace process taken by the Arab League, which on Monday said it could see a two-state solution based on minor adjustments to the pre-1967 lines, and by Kerry.


In Washington on Tuesday afternoon, Kerry hailed the Arab League’s shift. Speaking at a press conference with Spanish Foreign Minister Jose Manuel Garcia-Margallo, the secretary said the Arab initiative “never received the full focus and full attention and recognition” it deserved when it was first set forth by King Abdullah of Saudi Arabia.
He said Israelis had been asking him in recent days, “What are the Arabs going to do? What is the Arab attitude towards peace at this point in time? And so the Arab community — and I think they should be thanked for this — saw fit to come here to the United States as a delegation of the Arab League to make it clear that they are re-launching the Arab Peace Initiative.”

Al Thani spoke after his delegation met across the street from the White House with Vice President Joe Biden and Kerry, who has been pushing Arab leaders to embrace a modified version of their decade-old initiative as part of a new US-led effort to corral Israel and the Palestinians back into direct peace talks.
Palestinian chief negotiator Saeb Erekat gave backing to the softened Arab League stance, saying that a plan including minor land swaps was consistent with the Palestinian Authority’s official position.
“In the event that Israel should accept a two-state solution based on 1967 borders, the Palestinians may consider small border adjustments, as long as it does not harm Palestinian interests,” Erekat said.









Justice Minister Tzipi Livni (Hatnua), Israel’s chief negotiator with the Palestinians, welcomed on Tuesday the Arab League’s announcement that it would integrate the idea of a “minor” land swaps into the Arab Peace Initiative.
Livni said it was important that Arab leaders recognized that there would be a need to adjust the pre-1967 lines in a final agreement.

Speaking on behalf of an Arab League delegation to Washington, Qatari Prime Minister Sheik Hamad Bin Jassem Al Thani on Monday called for an agreement between Israel and a future Palestine based on the Jewish state’s border before the 1967 Six Day War. But, unlike in previous such proposals, he cited the possibility of “comparable,” mutually agreed and “minor” land swaps between the Israelis and the Palestinians.
Al Thani spoke after his delegation met across the street from the White House with Vice President Joe Biden and Secretary of State John Kerry, who has been pushing Arab leaders to embrace a modified version of their decade-old initiative as part of a new US-led effort to corral Israel and the Palestinians back into direct peace talks.

Al Thani spoke after his delegation met across the street from the White House with Vice President Joe Biden and Secretary of State John Kerry, who has been pushing Arab leaders to embrace a modified version of their decade-old initiative as part of a new US-led effort to corral Israel and the Palestinians back into direct peace talks.
President Shimon Peres, who is in Italy, also welcomed the amended Arab League proposal.
“It is good that they have come back to a peace initiative at this time,” Peres reportedly told Pope Francis I during a meeting at the Vatican. “It is very important that they have reiterated their support for the two-state solution. The prime minister has said that he wants negotiations. The sooner we can do that, the better.”
“It seems that despite everything that is going on in the Arab world, the Arab League’s peace initiative is alive, kicking, and relevant,” MK Merav Michaeli from the opposition Labor Party said. “Once again we, Israel, have an opportunity for a general peace with the Arab world.”









Arab countries endorsed a Mideast peace plan Monday that would allow for small shifts in Israel’s 1967 border, moving them closer to President Barack Obama’s two-state vision.

Speaking on behalf of an Arab League delegation to Washington, Qatari Prime Minister Sheik Hamad Bin Jassem Al Thani called for an agreement between Israel and a future Palestine based on the Jewish state’s border before the 1967 Mideast War. But, unlike in previous such offers, he cited the possibility of “comparable,” mutually agreed and “minor” land swaps between the Israelis and the Palestinians.


Kerry said that he and Biden stressed the vision that Obama outlined in 2011, when he became the first American leader to publicly declare Israel’s pre-1967 lines as the basis for an Israeli-Palestinian settlement.



Although revolutionary when it was introduced by Saudi Arabia and endorsed by the 22-member Arab League, the initiative has never been embraced by Israel. And Palestinian officials have previously spoken out against any changes to its terms. What was striking, and perhaps most limiting, about the initiative was its simplicity, offering Israel comprehensive recognition in the Arab world in exchange for all lands conquered in the 1967 Mideast war.












Prime Minister Binyamin Netanyahu will address the Knesset on the topic of the Arab League’s flexibility on pre-1967 lines, after all 52 opposition MKs signed a petition on Tuesday requiring him to do so.
Meretz chairwoman Zehava Gal- On, who initiated the petition, said “the government cannot continue dragging its feet and miss this great opportunity.”

She added that “The new, promising version of the Arab League’s proposal for peace with Israel and dozens of Arab states is at our doorstep and the government cannot turn its back on negotiations.”
If at least 40 MKs sign a petition for the prime minister to discuss any topic in the plenum, he is required by law to do so. However, the MKs may only do so once a month.


Opposition leader Shelly Yacimovich also called for Netanyahu to adopt the Arab League’s agreement to land swaps.
“This is an important step by the Arab world, which has a chance to be groundbreaking. We must examine it seriously,” she stated.






Labor MK Erel Margalit wrote a letter to Netanyahu calling it an opportunity to reach a regional agreement that will let Israel be “part of the economic and political fabric” of the Middle East.
“After years of a diplomatic freeze with the Palestinian government, Israel does not have the privilege of remaining indifferent to the Arab League’s initiative and avoid stretching out its hand to implement it...while protecting Israeli interests,” Margalit wrote.


Coalition members from Yesh Atid spoke out in favor of Qatari Prime Minister Sheikh Hamad bin Jassim al-Thani's announcement, as well.
“This is an important, encouraging step,” Science and Technology Minister Ya’acov Peri said.
“An announcement like this gives Israel an opening to continue to strengthen large settlement blocs, in exchange for other territory that will be given to the Palestinians. The time has come to check the possibility of adopting the Arab League initiative as part of accelerating the diplomatic process.”





11 comments:

Anonymous said...

Hum,will Israel become a welcome player..because they have oil now?
Tread softly; why should they give up any land, but to keep peace, if truly peace comes, I suppose worth it. In my opinion, I think Israel should have a clause in the deal that stipulates that if peace falls short of its intentions, Israel will be given back any land and even more that was part of this arrangement!! Yet we all realize this peace could be Bibical speaking, calm before the storm; I will keep an open, optmistic mind-set. Interesting!I know peace is desired/deserved by Israel!

Robin said...

I just have a difficult time envisioning peace, should Israel be forced to strike Iran. Muslims across the region would align with Iran against their arch enemy and the entire world would come down on one side or the other.

Mrs.C said...

There will be no Peace in Israel until the ac makes his appearance, and even then, it will be a false peace...

Stephen said...

Set up is going to HAPPEN so that
the AC can confirm, meaning that
the peace treaty will ALREADY BE
WORKED on , AC is more then likely
UFM secretary general,

Siljimassi,

false prophet Pope Francis,
who was JUST MEETING with the
Israeli president in the last 24 hours !!!!

please compute THAT and tell me
what it adds up to.

and with stocks at records, a RAPTURE would be a very good
kick in the butt for wall street
bulls.

Stephen >>>>>>>>>>>>>


Anonemy said...

False Peace??? there's no such thing as false peace, just PEACE, peace may be broken but it still peace (short or long),
what if Israel got their peace with the palestenian on mid 2014, what then???
are we not to pray for the peace in Jerusalem?

Anonymous said...

Anon you are nitpicking semantics here and you are confusing scriptures regarding Israel and 'peace agreements' withthe call to pray for jerusalem. You should know better..
Scott

Anonymous said...

"False peace" is a quick reference for peace deals as we have seen in the past, arent intended for peace but for a weakening of israel. Thus "false peace"...i would assume you know this, as its common terminology..or are you simply baiting mrs c here (usually you are more subtle)...and she is correct, real peace only comes with Jesus' reign
Scott

Mrs.C said...

Yes indeed Brother Scott, fishing and baiting as usual :(Yes also, that the ONLY TRUE PEACE will come when Jesus reigns on this Earth.

Intentional Annoyance aka anon, anonemy or just pick any one of your fake names
Brother Scott is right, you do know better. (You again, must have a lot of time on your hands) You are intentionally confusing different Scriptures, sewing confusion once again, and of course not backing it up with Scriptures, just off the cuff sound bites. As said before, do you even read His Word?
As for your ridiculous “there is no false peace” statement, His Word differs from your statement. Its obviously not a True Peace that the ac uses, as he destroys with it. So there ya go, “false Peace”.
Daniel 8:25
25 And through his policy also he shall cause craft to prosper in his hand; and he shall magnify himself in his heart, and by peace shall destroy many: he shall also stand up against the Prince of princes; but he shall be broken without hand.

Regarding your “Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem” comment, maybe you should look it up (as you have so much time), its obvious you are confused (most likely intentionally sewing confusion again)
Oh, and btw, in Ezekiel 38 they are NOT “at Peace” as you say. Perhaps a good read of His Word, inviting the Holy Spirit for clarification will help you on that too…

Mrs.C said...

Oh, what a surprise...cut and past anon...gee you already had prepared answers. Um, set up once again.:( Regarding Ezekiel 38, you just made it clear that you knew the true answer all along, and were just baiting.
Your twisting of Scripture is amazing, and pretty disturbing. Let me guess, lets just cut to the chase here. Same pattern, bait with silly questions, all along prepared to promote your nonsense. So you are incorrectly saying that the Daniel reference has already happened. Incorrect. And next you will say that the "Saints" during the Trib are Christians. Incorrect.
AND your 1 Thessalonians twisting, is also incorrect. Whew...your pretty confused...but then once again your heading towards the promoting of (as always) your Post Trib - Mid Trib untruth...really,with all of your apparent time available, you do need to really read the Bible for yourself...open THE BOOK...it will really help you...

Scott said...

Anon - I really wish I understood your agenda/obsession, I really do. I had only lifted comments for a few hours when you immediately start your "stuff". You must be quite diligent watching for those windows of opportunity to stir things up, because you always appear within hours.

Why don't you ever post when registration is required? If your intent is sincere, it seems that you would post then - or when I am moderating - you never ever attempt your "stuff" when I am moderating. Why not?

It is so curious to me.

Anyway - I had lifted the registration thing so that more people could post comments (I have received private correspondence asking me to do so.

You are one of the main reasons that I end up having to moderate this board and/or put in the registration requirement.

So perhaps this is how you feel power in your life. Many people who feel powerless otherwise, do things like this because it gives them a sense of control and power. It looks more and more like you are in that category.

If so, congrats - I'll go back to moderating and/or having registration and as a result many people can't post comments and it takes a lot more of my time.

So, thanks for that.

Scott said...

By the way, for those reading this thread - I deleted several comments by "anonemy" that were serving no purpose but to stir up things, as usual. But some of the comments above are directed to the deleted comments.