Wednesday, November 7, 2012

Politics, Jesus And Prophecy




This is been a very interesting political season. Because of a constant focus on prophecy, the only interest in politics I can generate is appropriately that which is seen through the lens of biblical prophecy. The 'interesting' aspect of this election cycle, is the seemingly supernatural aspect. By any rational thought, Romney should have won in an epic landslide. With 'real' unemployment probably above 20%, foreign policy disasters, collapse of the housing market, trillions of dollars in debt - a debt that will increase dramatically once government mandated healthcare takes effect, and on and on goes this list of failures. Additionally, as recent as yesterday, polls showed Romney up by several percentage points. But somehow, many of us felt that Obama would still win, despite so much evidence  to the contrary. Why? 

That may be a much easier question to answer than it would seem. 

Take Turkey for instance. You ask, what does Turkey have to do with "Politics, Jesus And Prophecy"? 
Easy. I recall a time when Turkey seemed a shoe-in for entry into the EU - even as recently as 4-5 years ago. I also recall seeing the news around that, and thinking about hard it was to see Turkey as part of the Gog-MaGog alliance - if they were a member of the EU, and how such a move would have been difficult to see prophetically. 

As Turkey leaned towards the EU, it also appeared that their financial and military alliances would go to Europe, not Russia and Iran. This also seemed highly inconsistent with the prophecies of Ezekiel 38-39. As a result, I kept watching and waiting for something to happen - something which would have been more consistent with biblical prophecy. And indeed it did. After protracted talks and negotiations it became apparent that Turkey would not be allowed entry into the EU after all, for a variety of complex reasons. Once this became apparent,  Russia quickly moved in to fill the void and they did so in a big way. As a result, over the past several years we have watched the alliance between Russia and Turkey grow, with an array of agreements between these two countries and at the same time, we have watched Turkey's rhetoric against Israel rise to Iranian levels. 


The point? Biblical prophecy always rules - even when it doesn't seem apparent initially. Every time. 


That takes us back to the U.S. elections and why so many prophecy watchers had a hard time envisioning anything but an Obama win, despite all evidence to the contrary. Even when it seemed obvious that Romney would win this election going away - I just had a hard time seeing it - when viewed through the lens of biblical prophecy; in fact this was discussed many times on this blog. 



Consider the following points - under the basic, underlying premise that we are just on the verge of the beginning of the Tribulation and of course the gathering up of the Church Saints. 


1. Israel will face their enemies without any significant assistance from any other countries. A Romney win would have made that scenario almost impossible. The timeline for that scenario remains imminent (see below).

2. America is not a player during the tribulation period. With the re-election of Obama, America's rapid demise will continue both financially and militarily. The dollar will continue to fall, (in order to pave the way for a central currency and central financial system), as planned - according to one of Obama's biggest supporters, George Soros (his words). With this re-election, the progress towards this centralized, world-wide financial system will continue unabated. 

3. America's military will continue to be dismantled - and this too is consistent with the apparent absence of the U.S. in biblical end times scenarios. A Romney win would have probably reversed this demise, and America's influence would have served to dampen Russia's continuing rise. Now,  Russia will continue on her present course as we approach the Gog-MaGog conflict.

4. Iran will continue on their present course and Israel will have to take action - knowing that U.S. will not support this effort. This would have been significantly altered with a Romney victory.

5. All of Israel's enemies will be furthered emboldened now and will continue on the present course as triggered by the "Arab Spring" which the U.S. administration helped facilitate. This too is a necessary part of end times prophecy. 



In other words, with this bizarre and unexpected election - the stage is still very much set for the last prophecies to play out rapidly and without delay. 

A Romney win would have seemingly delayed this present course - a course which is presently racing towards the inevitable conclusions we expect from the prophetic scriptures. 




There are those who seem to genuinely worship human government.  Sadly, the worst that human government has to offer is yet to come. I pray for those people who will have to endure this period which is rapidly approaching. Ironically, in the beginning they will believe that they are entering a period of utopia - the perfect, all encompassing government with all of its promises, only to realize the 'sudden destruction' that will come, along with the realization that they were deceived but it will be too late - and will have to face unthinkable carnage. It isn't too early to begin praying for these people. 



The bottom line?


Jesus said it best:



36 Jesus said, “My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place.”
37 “You are a king, then!” said Pilate.
Jesus answered, “You say that I am a king. In fact, the reason I was born and came into the world is to testify to the truth. Everyone on the side of truth listens to me.”
(John 18:36-37)



"My kingdom is not of this world" is how we should all see politics.


We're too close to the end now - there seems to be nothing in the way to prevent or delay the events which are coming. Everything is perfectly lined up for the remaining events to take place at any moment. This is God's will and everything that we see today is part of a much larger, much more important plan than a U.S. political election. 

Perspective. From Psalm 33:


The Lord foils the plans of the nations;
he thwarts the purposes of the peoples.
11           


But the plans of the Lord stand firm forever,
the purposes of his heart through all generations.

No king is saved by the size of his army
no warrior escapes by his great strength.

A horse is a vain hope for deliverance
despite all its great strength it cannot save. But the eyes of the Lord are on those who fear him, on those whose hope is in his unfailing love,
to deliver them from death and keep them alive in famine.

We wait in hope for the Lord;
he is our help and our shield.
 In him our hearts rejoice,
    for we trust in his holy name.
 May your unfailing love be with us, Lord,
    even as we put our hope in you.



We have a kingdom which awaits us. What happens here, other than reaching souls with the message of salvation should be of no consequence as we watch for the coming of the Lord. God's plan will be carried out and apparently that involves the U.S. to continue on the present course, as many of us predicted. 

Our King awaits us. He awaits His bride's presence in New Jerusalem; the eternal place He has prepared for us. Our instructions are to be watching and waiting for His coming with great anticipation (Luke 21:28-31, Luke 12:35-43) while we see these signs around us. 

Maranatha! Our Lord Comes and His plan will not be delayed. 




66 comments:

Alice said...

Thank you Scott! Thank you for redirecting our attention to our one and only King Jesus!

Diane said...

Despite the disappointment of many of us...From "Our Changing Times "...
Tonight, after the election is over, we can predict (and guarantee) the following results:

1. God will still be on His throne
2. Jesus will still be King of kings and Lord of lords.
3. The Bible will still have all the answers to every problem.
4. The tomb will still be empty.
5. Jesus will still be the only way to heaven.
6. Prayer will still work - it will still make a difference and God will still answer prayer.
7. The cross, not the government, will still be our salvation.
8. There will still be room at the cross.
9. Jesus will still save anyone who places their faith and trust in Him.
10. God will still be with us always - He will never leave us or forsake us.

Source: Linda Leighton

Waterer said...

THANKYOU Scott. Perfectly said.

Angie said...

I have been following this blog since 2010. It had very much helped me to get myself prepared for the coming of Our dear Lord.
Things around me gets very much bitter, the more I wait for the return, the more bitter the things around me. I think this is the signs of the last days.
In my pain & agony increasing, I really hope that the Lord will not drag this to 20 years to come..... I read somewhere that those Israelites who were around during the Israel's establishment will be still around during the rapture...with the signs going on come soon dear Lord.

Mrs.C said...

As in the days of Noah, EVIL ABOUNDS!!! Just as God said it would! Gods Word is TRUE!
Israel, oh Israel, you are without question, in grave, grave danger!!! We grieve for you (and ourselves)...for what you are about to go through!
The United States of America is now continuing its slow death.
Brothers and Sisters, we are now in the position of our ancient Brothers and Sisters, the early Church. Be prepared for yourselves and your families! Fight for goodness and decency until we here His great SHOUT, and
the Trumpet blow! Run the good race! We are nearing the finish line!

God Bless You All!

Mrs.C said...

As a babe in Christ I never could begin to process how those during the Trib could gladly,willingly follow and worship the AC..."how could they be SO BLIND to this pure EVIL" was the thought that continuously went through my mind.
Seeing the PURE EVIL of the corrupt, and now we can add the title murderer-in-chief, rise to power...hold on to it, by lying, cheating and every other form of EVIL, with those that so gladly, blindly follow him and embrace him...clearly demonstrates to us all what is to come...there is no clearer line now between darkness and His Light!

mary said...

Good morning prophecy family,
When I woke up this morning, I felt empty, confused, etc.
Yesterday I had a sense that Romney had a chance and was feeling good about that.It was like this morning I lost all track of what we have been predicting all along and I knew that deep down for God's plan to continue, the leader of this country would stay the same.
Then I came to my favorite site and read your comments Scott and was so refreshed and was awakened in my spirit again. Thanks for summing it all up for us once again.I turned in my Bible to psalm 145 and read verses 1-2 like I do most mornings...
"I will exalt you my God and King, and praise your name forever and ever. I will praise you every day, yes, I will praise you forever."
Then.... my eyes glanced down to psalm 146:3-5

"Don't put your confidence in powerful people, there is no help for you there.When they breathe their last, they return to the earth, and all their plans die with them.But joyful are those who have the God of Israel as their helper, whose hope is in the LORD their God.!"
God sure has a way of bringing us back to reality and truth, and I love Him so much. I hope these verses will encourage those who also needed a little pick me up today.
Maranatha,mary

Caver said...

Oh my goodness! Scott, so agree with you....but I shed tears also. Its sad beyond measure to watch your country die....one you've given so much of your life for.

But, as you say, the Lord's prophetic word Will be done. The country I grew up in and loved is gone now, part of the history books....what short time there is left.

Israel has no choice now, many in the military are now or soon will be having to make a clear choice, many Christians in the government service are preparing for other jobs, many small business start their planning to shut their doors, and we draw closer to the Holy Spirit, our Savior, and the Lord God Almighty. We know that the closer we draw to Him, the closer He draws to us.

We have made it around the bend now, around the curve of destruction and are now on the beginning of the straight away. This is going to be cruel, brutal, ugly, sickening, and downright ugly.

Lord God Almighty, our lives are in Your most capable hands. As always, You're all we have now, even the facade of our civil liberties is gone now.

ChristineInCleveland said...

AMEN Scott!! Maranatha, indeed....

David said...

Even so Lord.......come.......God remains sovereign .........we are exactly where we need yo be.......the best is yet to come.

Robin said...

My sentiments exactly, Scott. I think we've all known, deep down, the outcome of this election. The Word tells us the end times wil be like birth pains. As one who's experienced them four times, I know they increase in intensity, and don't stop or decrease until birth.

Take comfort in the knowledge The Lord is in control . . .because if Conservatives can't wrestle America back, then His plan is continuing to move forward. Maranatha . . .

David said...

The really sad fact, that is so evident, is the amount of worldly (and questionably lost) people there actually are in the world right now. Can a Christian support a person who enables gay marriages, abortion, ect. ? GOD. Has plainly said these things are sin. Would a Christian vote to support these sins? Well, either some did, or there are going to be alot of people bust hell wide open unless they receive Christ......just my thoughts.

Gwenny said...

I went to bed after midnight and was physically shaken.
I thought for a while that Romney would win. My husband said it has to be this way in order for our Lord to come. My hope renewed but sadness remains for all who are blind to what's happening. It's hard to watch our country fall considering what it was founded on. It's drifted away from God.
Reading all of your comments blessed my soul this morning! We must continue on as there is still work for us here. Keep praying, witnessing and hold tight to each other when things get tough! God is in control! Love & Prayers Gwenny

Gary said...

I was hoping that Obama would win. I feel that with him in office, the closer we go home. I want to go home!

Anonymous said...

Everyone of you have expressed the torrent of emotions I have been faced with this morning. I finally just had to have a good, long talk with the Lord (should have done that from the first - duh! - When will I learn????) I know that His Will will be done and that we are all covered with His blood and hidden under His wings. It just seems like we all have SO much coming at us that it's hard to stay focused on Him, but we must. Oh, Maranatha Lord Jesus, Maranatha. We all grow so weary and long so to come home. Please give us the strength and faith we need to endure until You come for us. We love You so much, dearest Lord!

Elizabeth

Dave Aldrich said...

THANK YOU, SCOTT!

Much needed words and Holy Spirit driven to remind us, to comfort us.

THE KING IS COMING!!!

Nathan said...

Heres an article this morning from yahoo news .http://news.yahoo.com/obama-victory-spells-trouble-israels-netanyahu-124053396.html.

What are you guys crazy? An Obama win is one step closer to heaven .
So don't be so down after the Romney loss . This is Gods Plan happening right in front of your eyes . Rejoice don't be down at all .

I just started laughin when they called Ohio and thought to myself "Thy will be done Lord"

Peace
Nathan .

Dave Aldrich said...

Nathan... True, we are that much closer to being harpazo'd out of here, but it doesn't lesson the grief felt for those that will be left behind. While we still have time we can still proclaim the Hope that is within us.

Anonymous said...

Romney was way ahead in the polls until Sandy came in. Then all the attention went to Odummer and Romney lost his gain. I have to believe that God controls hurricanes. Does anyone think that Sandy helped Romney?

The people in the hurricane area cried out to their God (The Government)for help some even said Obama! help us, others said where's FEMA instead of where's God.

A few months ago the Democratic National Convention voted God out of their platform and reluctantly back in for political reasons.

I think God may be showing us that the people have chosen their God.

History repeats it's self.

2Pe_2:9 The Lord knoweth how to deliver the godly out of temptations, and to reserve the unjust unto the day of judgment to be punished:

Dutch Treat said...

Scott, thanks so much for these beautiful thoughts. When I went to bed last night I felt a wide range of emotions. I felt so sad for our nation, one that our forefathers will no longer recognize; and yet I also felt such a sense of peace that Almighty God is really in control, and that His Word is coming to fruition just as it said, and that the new world order is fast approaching us. We are that much closer to going home; and that gives me more comfort than anything. I shared these thoughts with a few guys this morning. Some were very reflective while others thought I was crazy. That's why we need to keep praying for our nation now more than ever. So as Jesus said: When you see these signs look up; for your redemption is nigh. I don't know if this is a tell-tale sign; but at noon today the Stock Market was down 300 points. Peace be with you all; and I am so looking forward to seeing all of you.

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Anonymous said...

You are almost correct with your prophetic research analysis.But a most important thing that must occur for the end of this age(church age) is the preaching of God News in all nations-all over earth.Jesus said-you go in my name and make disciples of all nations.Yes,you heard it not just USA,all nations of world are included in the salvation plan of God.God says-"i will pour out my spirit on all flesh in these last days".

WW3(Gog Magog war of Ezekiel38,39)is near,and in that war all false religions of earth which include catholicism,non messianic judaism,islam,hindu,buddhism etc will become extinct.After the war all people living on earth will be members of one true God's church aka non feminist protestantism(those protestants that donot embrace female pastors/homosexuality etc) atleast for namesake.

After the WW3 ,3rd Temple will also be rebuilt in Jesrusalem and it shall be called as "House of prayer for people of all nations" exactly as Jesus prophesied.Animal and other sacrifices will be offered in the temple in tribute to eternal sacrifice of Jesus Christ.Then Jesus will come in midheavens to take his church(true believers) to heaven.The hypocrites(namesake christians) will be left behind to face great delusion and wrath of God for 7 years.

In the middle of this 7 years Antichrist will enter the 3rd temple and declare himself God.He will require all people to have number 666 imprinted on them to buy or sell.Those who get this mark are doomed for eternal hell.So if anybody during this tribulation period needs salvation from eternal hell fire,they should not allow themselves to be marked with this numbed,which would mean they would be killed mostly.God will mark 144,000 people belonging to 12 tribes of Israel at the time of rapture.They will also die as martyrs.After this 7 year period Jesus will come back with 10,000 s of his saints and execute judgment upon antichrist and his forces,and set up his millenial kingdom.Antichrist and his assistant false prophet will be thrown to eternal hell fire alive.

Ally said...

There is so much I want to say but words escape me. Thank you Scott! Caver-i realized America as much as I loved her was an idol. :( and my heart was wrenched in two and I was sorely vexed. I cried for many months over all who gave their lives and their families for her. I too hoped God would give us one more chance, even broken and humbled to seve him as a nation. But it is not to be. I wil worship him still!
The hurricane. My take is not like yours. If you research you wil clearly see the storm was seeded, steered and manipulated directly into the most heavily populated areas if our nation. I believe this was a deliberate act (obviously). Why? As a blood sacrifice to the dark powers so they could assure victory for their guy. Of course God wil use this to his own benefit as usual. I feel sorry for us. But God wil se us through.
MARANATHA! Come quickly! And I reslly mean it .

Anonymous said...

Oh my! I was so comforted and encouraged by the Scriptures that were posted on here that I told a friend to check it out. I just got back on and they have been deleted! Why is that?

Anonymous said...

I'm sorry, I just realized I went back to the wrong comment section to read the wonderful Scriptures that were posted.

David said...

If they were removed, it was for a reason Neo. Probably could just call that friend and tell them.

Anonymous said...

“If sinners be damned, at least let them leap to Hell over our dead bodies. And if they perish, let them perish with our arms wrapped about their knees, imploring them to stay. If Hell must be filled, let it be filled in the teeth of our exertions, and let not one go unwarned and unprayed for.” Charles H. Spurgeon

A Romney victory might have given the True Church more time to intercede for the lost. With his defeated we now have less time to do this. Yet while we're still on the earth, has our Lord changed His purpose for the remaining time He’s given us?

I don’t think so.

Further, we may have forgotten that the world can’t stop us from praying; nor can they stop our Lord from answering. In fact, if the world believed – really -- that there is no God, then our prayers are no threat to them for, in their scheme of things, these prayers are but meaningless words spoken uselessly out into the empty air. But since they in the world are so vexed by our prayers, even of those prayed in private, demonstrates their recognition that YHWH is no non-existent nor insignificant Personage, even if He’s presently invisible to their mortal eyes. To paraphrase William Shakespeare, "Methinks the lady protests too much." Hamlet, Act III, Scene II.

So even if we have less time now than what we'd hoped for -- let's pray effectively for their salvation, anyway. We tend to forget that they have absolutely no hope, while also forgetting that we ourselves will be arriving Home soon, and then powerfully returning later.

Thanks, Ally for your heads-up on Pastor Thomas' book (free PDF) "Praying Effectively for the Lost". It's extremely helpful. We might as well intercede for these poor lost folks throughout our country, while we're also being Watchmen. (And I think you're right about the seeding of Hurricane Sandy.)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ppwo8tcy6OQ

God bless you all and MARANATHA. (I wouldn't mind going Home right now myself!)

C.B.

Scott said...

Neo - the scriptures about the gospel presented to the whole world is a Tribulation scenario, not a pre-trib scenario. The scriptures confirm this - in addition, that would be a 'condition' which would destroy imminence.

But the point of this post and subsequent comment thread isn't about that - our topic today is completely different. Lets save doctrinal discussions for a more appropriate day ok?

Scott said...

Neo - another thing (as I read through your post) - There is no scripture that indicates that false religion will be destroyed at the time of Gog-MaGog. In fact, the ultimate false religions will occur during the Tribulation - during the first half of the Tribulation there will be a false religion (the one which will be destroyed as described in Revelation 17-18 and then when the AC forces worship of him as god. So that POV is incorrect as well IMO

Scott said...

Anon- Dick Morris goes into some detail about how he sees the hurricane as being a big factor. I see the implication and its very hard to dispute. A once in a life time 'perfect storm' hits the week before the election, just as Romney is gaining momentum and just as the Beng think hits? coincidence? I doubt it

Anonymous said...

Scott!! This is your old friend, "RJsHere" from RR ~ all those many years ago!! Remember me?

I just now realized YOU have an incredible site here!! Did not even realized you had a site.

AWESOME!! Thank you for keeping on keeping on & for encouraging people to continue looking up!!

I truly believe we are CLOSE NOW!! And our redemption may well even be before the end of this year!

Let us hope! Maranatha!

Lynn Macio Perry said...

So many of you simply forget where the current problems originated, with the Republican Party, you're simply the blind trying to lead the blind and misinterpret the bible scriptures to fit you're own biased opinions. Shame on you!

Caver said...

Wow! Thank you Lynn Perry for your introduction and kind and comforting words of indictment with no back-up what-so-ever.

May you have a very blessed day also.

Anonymous said...

I felt like so many of you today. I was just sick. I didnt even go to work today cause everyone at my job thinks Obama is some kind of god, it makes my skin crawl. These people put so much faith in this man. And yes...I did cry. But then I read Scotts encouraging words and was quickly reminded...we will be going HOME!
I will stay in prayer!
God bless us all!
A

Anonymous said...

Jesus come quickly I Am Ready To Go HOME

Anonymous said...

I decided not to vote last year when God gave me a word he said Bush Sr was sent here to KILL, Bush Jr was sent here Steal and Be prepared for Obama to Destroy... God told me last year something is getting ready to take place around the end of the Election year. Obama is Anti-Christ and wants to destroy Isreal because of his muslim beliefs. Obama told Israel to hold on attacking Iran until after the election. They plan on attacking 11/9 I begin to pray and cry I was listening to my gospel on my phone and as soon as the song ended my phone died. I charged my phone for a sec and turned it back on and it said read your bible for 5mins and it will change your life my bible app went straight to..1Luke 12:7-11 NIV84Indeed, the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Don't be afraid; you are worth more than many sparrows.“I tell you, whoever acknowledges me before men, the Son of Man will also acknowledge him before the angels of God. But he who disowns me before men will be disowned before the angels of God. And everyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who blasphemes against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven. “When you are brought before synagogues, rulers and authorities, do not worry about how you will defend yourselves or what you will say,I  started crying even more God showed me to not be afraid! Many will be Deceived and will not believe but PLEASE PRAY FOR OUR COUNTRY

Anonymous said...

I Thess 4:16-17

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

David said...

Bible scriptures are misinterpreted only by people who don't know the bible or have an intimate relationship with the Lord Almighty. I know full well where the very problems you speak of originated. IN THE GARDEN IF EDEN friend. The labels you speak of republican, democrat, independent, come back to the same origin.....people. so yes the current problems, past problems, and future problems all come from humans. People name them. There is no bias here. None of the people here really care who goes in office. The only focus here is God. Think about this friend. When your time comes, will you spend eternity in heaven or hell? If you aren't sure I would like to discuss it with you. E-mail me if you want. Outdoorsur@Hotmail.com

Scott said...

RJ ! Of course I do indeed remember you - how are ya doing? Nice to see ya here!

WVBORN56 said...

Thanks Scott...excellent post today! Keep looking up as the time on this dispensation comes to a close. Lord your Bride awaits.

Scott said...

WV - God Bless brother. Coming here and seeing like minds - all looking up with great anticipation does the heart good. Can't wait for our celebration to begin!

Julie P said...

I am so glad I found your site, dear brother. It's with great sadness I've read your blog, but with the sense of truth I have felt before when I have grasped something completely and known with certainty that that something was true. I am so sad at the loss of our country....I too felt like crying. But I can see how it is and must be, and know I will agree with God, whatever we must endure as His great Plan comes to fruition. God bless you, Scott.

Scott said...

Julie - Nice to see you - but have no despair! We are just that much closer to the main goal here, and the recent elections keeps things moving along prophetically. God's plan is good for us, ultimately. I agree about the sadness of what we once were, but its gone forever, and frankly, I'm not sure how much Romney could have done anyway other than slow down the inevitable. I say bring it on quickly now - lets get to the end asap because that means that we're in the very presence of the Lord. Amen - God Bless.

Diane said...

“Blessed by the name of God for ever and ever: for wisdom and might are His: And He changeth the times and the seasons: He removeth kings, and setteth up kings: He giveth wisdom unto the wise, and knowledge to them that know and understanding...” —Daniel 2:20-21
“And all the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing: and He doeth according to His Will in the army of heaven, and among the inhabitants of the earth: and none can stay His Hand, or say unto Him, What doest thou?” —Daniel 4:35

Anonymous said...

@Scott-that is your interpretation.Jesus commanded as to go out and preach the Gospel and make disciples of every nation.And the Gospel of the kingdom will be preached to all nations ,then the end will come.
@David-Scott didn't remove it.I removed it inorder to better paragraph the comment.
God bless you all...and come Lord Jesus.

Anonymous said...

@Scott-it's good to see that ,you are open to disagreement and discussion.God bless you...

Anonymous said...

@Scott-All false religions will be destroyed in WW3 aka Gog Magog War.After the war all people living on earth will be members of one true God's Church(non feminist protestantism) atleast for namesake.Then rapture will occur.True believers will be taken to heaven in rapture and hypocrites(namesake christians) will be left behind to face the great delusion sent by God.This great delusion is the world wide restoration of pagan false religions with twice as much fervor.This will be in the first half of 7 year period after rapture.At the middle of this 7 years,the beast will break the covenant with Israel and enter the Jerusalem temple and declare himself God(thessalonians,also depicted by prophet Daniel).Then wrath of God will be poured out on all earth as depicted in book of Revelation for the second half of seven years.After this 7 year period Jesus will come back,defeat beast and his forces,execute Judgment and set up the millenial kingdom.
For more info visit worldharvest.blogspot.com

William said...

Hello to everyone, this is my first time posting on this Blog after keeping up with it for awhile. Scott, thank you for your ministry and your service to the Lord. God is great!

After Tuesday's disappointing evening and Wednesday being more like the hangover, I felt it was more important now than ever to join with you in expressing the surreal feeling that comes along with seeing strong biblical prophetic signs taking place right before our very eyes.

Tuesday night we witnessed the final door being opened up to allow the remaining prophecies to occur and I believe(and I know I'm not the only one) it is really going to pick up speed in the days & weeks ahead.

I can relate to an earlier comment that was said about " feeling down about seeing the country she grew up in become fundamentally transformed and turning away from God".

I will say that it only lasted for a little less than half the day because I remembered we're in the Last Days(not that I ever forgot). Not even the voice of the Believer in Christ is going to be able to change the direction of biblical prophecy as it is occurring and what a wonderful blessing that is.

This is strictly my feeling but it is as though Jesus is now saying to those responsible for the Apostasy in America "this is what you want, this is what you'll get". I feel that America has now literally and officially chosen it's time of judgement.

There's one important fact though, the Lord will not allow those that chose this route to drag his Bride through the dirt right along with them and endure the punishment that
is soon to come for those that have blatantly rejected him.

I do have something to add to this comment but will do in another post.

Maranatha

mary said...

Diane, so nice to see you again. I think about you from time to time and have been praying for you. You had surgery didn't you, if I remember correctly?
It is also so nice to see new faces and have you part of this family.
Scott, again thanks for this blog so we can all be encouraged together in these last days.

Mrs.C said...

Brother Neo,
I respectfully disagree with your statements. First, the Gog-Magog war is not a “WW3”. God specifically lists the names of those that He orchestrates to be involved in this war, and He does not state that it’s a “world war”. Secondly, you state that all “false” religions will be “wiped out”, including Judaism. Judaism is NOT a “false religion”. Jesus Himself did NOT cease from being Jewish. It is the Jewish People that will rebuild their Temple during the Trib. Thirdly, the “people living on Earth” as you say, AFTER the Rapture, will NOT be the Church. The Gog-Magog war precedes the Rapture, and does not involve the “world”. It is God calling out, if you will, orchestrating the whole event, so as to destroy Gog and his followers. We the Church Brother, will be gone by the end of that war.

God Bless!

Scott said...

William - so nice to see you here and I wholeheartedly agree with what you are saying - many thanks for the input (post often brother :)

Scott said...

Neo - show some scriptures which support your view about false religions being wiped out at the time of Gog-MaGog. I have heard a lot of things in my day, but I have never heard that one. And as Mrs C says, Gog-MaGog is confined to a tight radius as described in Ezekiel 38. It doesn't involve the whole world by ANY means. Again, show your scriptures to support your POV.

Also you are confusing scriptures. Jesus did say to proclaim the gospel to the world, but that isn't a precondition for the rapture or the beginning of the Tribulation.

However we see in Revelation 14:6 (obviously during the Tribulation:

"Then I saw another angel flying in midair, and he had the eternal gospel to proclaim to those who live on earth - to every nation, tribe, language and people......'Fear God and give him glory because the hour of his judgment has come'"


As far as the false religion ending at Gog-MaGog (again, a POV I have never heard before) - then how do you explain the woman on the beast of Rev 17 and the description of "adultery" that has been committed with her. Surely you understand that this is a reference to spiritual adultery (aka false religion) and what do believe is the reference to the destruction of 'babylon' in Rev 18?

Surely you understand that the AC will proclaim himself as God at the midpoint of the Trib and force worship of him. If that isn't a false religion, for goodness sakes, what is?

I had requested that this thread be one of support in the midst of the elections etc (and actually this has been a most uplifting thread ) - and not one for doctrinal discussion, but whatever

Anonymous said...

@scott-women on the beast in revelation17 and babel destruction in revelation18,is specifically speaking of the city of Rome and the religions which it spread-both ancient paganism and catholicism.The city of Rome through catholicism did spirutual harlotery by doing idolatry and promoting unbiblical doctrines in the name of Jesus Christ(intercession/veneratjon of saints,purgatory).Those true beleievers who didn't submit to her (catholicism) where stereotyped as heretics and massacred.Also add to that the early christians massacred by Roman emperors like Nero.Thus "blood of saints" was found in her.

The babylonian false religion will be ressurected after the rapture of church,by beast(antichrist),false prophet and all unbelievers.For the lawless one-beast to be revealed the restrainer-holy spirit and church should be removed(2Thessalonians2:7).This will happen at the rapture.

So before the rapture of church all false religions will be extinct and the true religion of God(non feminist protestantism) will encompass all earth.Also you said Gog Magog war is not global,so it couldn't be WW3.Couldn't the Gog Magog war depicted in Ezekiel38,39 be a part of a bigger/global WW3.Ezekiel speaks of Gog's army reduced to 1/5th it's original size,before it departs to attack Israel.This indicate they were already at war,before departing to attack Israel.Also a large number of countries are said to be Gog's allies.Likewise on the other side we see sheba,dedan,tarshish and all it's young lions(basically US,UK,arab gulf countries etc)...God bless you.

@Mrs C-judaism that doesn't accept Yashua as the Messiah(Jesus as the Christ) is a false religion.Messianic Judaism is the true religion which will be restored and in the rebuilt 3rd temple in Jerusalem,animal and other sacrifices will be offered in tribute to eternal sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the calvary cross.The 3rd temple at Jerusalem will be known as "house of prayer for people of all nations" ,exactly as Jesus prophecied.People from all nations will come to the rebuilt 3rd temple to offer their prayers and sacrifices to God almighty...God bless you.

Benjamin said...

Scott,

Thank you so much for this post. I forwarded it to my family and friends. I think it so accurately expresses what many of us prohpecy watchers have been thinking and feeling.

There was no logical reason Obama should have won, yet he did. But as you said, when you view this from the perspective of biblical prophecy, you can see how the piece fits perfectly into the overall puzzle.

God bless you all.

Mrs.C said...

Brother Neo,
Judaism is NOT a false religion as you suggest. The entire Plan of God for the Church, AND non Believing Jewish People, is based on Judaism.
The Rapture, is based on Judaism. Jesus is STILL JEWISH! IN FACT, Jewish Law will continue in Heaven!
Jesus Himself told His Disciples that they (being Jewish) will Judge the Twelve Tribes of Israel!

Matthew 19:28
28.And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.

Jesus didnt become a "Christian" when He went to the Cross. He was and remains Jewish, from eternity past, present and future...
God Bless...

Anonymous said...

@Mrs.C-i agree with you completely,that jewish laws still continues,Jesus remained Jewish etc.Jesus fulfilled the Jewish laws,he didn't came to remove it.God gave the laws as a marker to salvation,which is Jesus Christ.When salvation- Jesus has arrived,the pointer/marker is made even more true because it pointed to Jesus Christ as salvation.That is why i said 3rd temple will be rebuilt in Jerusalem and animal and other sacrifices will be offered there in tribute to the eternal sacrifice of Jesus Christ on the cross.People from all nations will come to the rebuilt Jerusalem temple to offer their prayer/sacrifices and the temple shall be called "house of prayer for people of all nations" exactly as our Lord Jesus prophecied.
I don't wish to argue,for there is no benefit in argument.Even if it may seem now that we may disagree on some things,we must encourage each other to strive in our holy faith.God bless you.

Scott said...

Neo - I disagree that Rev 17 (first paragraphs) is specific to the location of Rome. The woman on the beast is a reference to the political system during the Trib and the religious system. The beast represents the governmental structure and the woman represents false religion in that will be 'intertwined' with the political system.

I do believe mystery babylon is the false religion that is run from rome, so we may be agreeing in a way - but the descriptions that we see early in Rev 17 is more than just the location from which this false religion is run

Anonymous said...

@Scott-In revelations17:9-11,it's said that women-mystery babylon sits on 7 hills.Rome is the only prominent port city with 7 hills,it was from olden times a centre of religion,politics and trade.This is important because we see the merchants who traded in ships with this city stood far off weeping(Revelation18:17,18).

At the time when Apostle John wrote the book of Revelation,Rome was ruled by Ceasers.Five of those rulers had died when John wrote the book of revelation,one was ruling at the time of writing of the book,and John says one is yet to come and will rule only for a short period(Revelations17:10,11).

God says through John that antichrist/beast will be one among these 7 rulers,who will be ressurected at a future time by a false prophet.That false prophet will order people to build an image of one of these 7 kings(probably Nero,since his neumorology was 666) and will breath life into that image,so that the beast will be ressurected(Revelations13:15-18).

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Anonymous said...

@Scott-Also read Revelation13:1 and 11,in 13:1,it says antichrist/beast came out of "sea",in13:11 it says the 2nd beast/false prophet who did miracles on behalf of the first beast/antichrist came out of "land".Bible scholars identify this land and sea to be Jews and gentiles respectively.So the false prophet will be from one of the 12 tribes of Israel(probably from Dan) and beast/antichrist will be a gentile ,one among the 7 Roman ceasers/kings(probably Nero).

Thus this interpretation of "land and sea" further confirms identification of mystery babylon centred in Rome.In Revelations19:20,we read both beast and the false prophet who did miracles on behalf of the beast were cast alive into lake of fire and sulfur.

GG said...

Hi Neo~

I understand when this thread started that it could seem that you do have some grave concerns regarding revelation and that in part how it could pertain to where we are headed, especially after the election.

As the days are going on here, I am seeing we are back to the same commentary of the 777's, The Seven Hills, The Seven Kings, The Seven Rulers, etc. with past affiliation to seeking the anti-christ--, along with speculation snowballing into illuminati talk on the other threads.

I guess I am confused as to when will your answers be satisfied or is this the intent to inject these teachings back into the group that divide instead of re-direct our focus toward helping the lost, doing our part to witness and get out and unselfishly help those who need it in these last days? Seems to me all this anti-christ talk can't possibly help someone who is lost. It could take away their hope and make them possibly give up and not seek the Lord.

In a few days since the election it seems we are going backwards once again instead of taking this time to lift one another up and prepare for what is coming. Can you help me with your intent? I can't imagine this is what the Lord had in mind when he told us to look up.

Thanks, God Bless!!

GG

Anonymous said...

@GG-people are prejudiced,they were trained to love certain things from their childhood.This is what is called indoctrination.To come out of this,is possible only with the help of God.We study science seriously.Do we apply atleast the same seriosness when we study scriptures?We must meditate on scriptures,not only for our daily livings and circumstances,but also so that God may reveal the future,and the secrets about the past and the present which people guided by evil spirits cover up.This is essentially natural if we have a true hunger for God,to seek the truth.Of course Jesus is the truth,but should we as christians just regurgitate what is fed to us by certain religious scholars?This is were we should have the spirit of discernment.If somebody teaches something it's our duty as believers to find scriptural support for that teaching and make sure that scriptures isn't against it.Only when we are guided by the holy spirit we can truly discern.
God bless you too...

GG said...

Hi Neo-

Thanks for getting back to me on your intent. While I get to a point your desire to approach others with a scholarly mind-set, we have to always ask ourselves is this how Jesus handled these things?

I am with you on the fact that we must keep enduring sound doctrine and eagerly apply this principles daily while living in a fallen world. We are to take each morsel and roll it over in our minds, hearts, and let the finished, savorily product come out across our tongue, the very way Jesus ministered to all. If we can't do that then we don't care about those at the early stages but all we care about is edifying self, instead of edifying God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit in it's proper foundation.

I think you and I both know that these twisting of words are not what this blog is about. Let us take that knowledge to the unsaved or those who lack wisdom and insight and walk with them lovingly and gently to get them to the finish line.

It is about the lost, the helpless, the homeless, the ones in despair, the unsaved, the scripturally and spiritually challenged. We are no better than they just because we are secure in our blessed hope. How about taking all that insight you have and let's walk together in a humbler approach to catch as many as we can in the net. After all Jesus was a great fisherman of men :)

God Bless!!

GG

Anonymous said...

@scott,Mrs.C,GG-thank you all for your remarks.As you said rather than debating how prophecy would unfold,we must go out to the world and preach the gospel of Jesus Christ,so that we may save many from eternal hell fire.May our discussions be for encouragement and honest assesment submitting to each other.God bless you all.

Arlie Francis said...

I teach a Sunday School class at Wayside Chapel in San Antonio, Texas. This blog posting was sent to me early Sunday morning. It fit very well with my overall lesson on Matthew 12 that I opened with some thoughts that you touched on.

After looking at the recorded lesson, I edited it into a short stand alone piece and thought you might be interestd in seeing how I used it.

http://vimeopro.com/discipledaily/what-on-earth-is-god-doing