"He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead, so that no one could buy or sell unless he had the mark, which is the name of the beast or the number of his name"
With this in mind, we see how much progress has been made towards this prophetic fulfillment (which will occur during the Tribulation):
Obama's Healthcare Microchip: The "Mark"?
The United States of America has taken the giant step towards universal control of every American citizen and anyone receiving any form of medical treatment and/or supplies. This is not the Mark of the Antichrist, but it is the precursor to that Mark. The amazing fact of this action is that it puts the United States in the driver’s seat of the One World Order. Congressman Ron Paul’s website has these exact words, “‘In real world speak,’ according to this report, this new law, when fully implemented, provides the framework for making the United States the first Nation in the World to require each and every one of its citizens to have implanted in them a radio-frequency identification (RFID) microchip for the purpose of controlling who is, or isn’t, allowed medical care in their country.” (http://www.dailypaul.com/node/105079).
“This guidance document was developed as a special control guidance to support the classification of the implantable radiofrequency transponder system for patient identification and health information into class II (special controls). The device is intended to enable access to secure patient identification and corresponding health information in humans. This guidance is issued in conjunction with a Federal Register notice announcing the classification of implantable radiofrequency transponder system for patient identification and health information.
“This guidance document describes a means by which implantable radiofrequency transponder systems for patient identification and health information may comply with the requirement of class II special controls. Designation of this guidance document as a special control means that manufacturers of implantable radiofrequency transponder systems for patient identification and health information who follow the recommendations listed in this document, before introducing their device into commercial distribution in the United States, will also be able to market their device without being subject to the premarket notification requirements of section 510(k) of the Act.” (http://www.fda.gov/MedicalDevices/ucm072141.htm).
The Holy Bible is absolutely plain that this is the future of our world. The Antichrist will only have seven years to form his plan, implement it, and rule the world. He needs surrogates like President Obama to prepare the way. It is only reasonable to understand that almost every aspect of world control must be in place before he appears. With over six billion souls alive and dramatically growing, the stage must be set and in order.
We can see our world headed towards the One World Order from every direction. There are almost no national economies in the world. The world court is already conducting business and a great effort is underway to pressure every government to comply.
Again, I remind you that Obama’s microchip is not the Mark of the Beast. This future Mark must be identified with the Antichrist and is in essence a form of devil-worship. Taking that Mark will be a choice between the worship of our Lord Jesus Christ and the devil, along with his false trinity. The present push for world control is certainly satanic.
I did some digging after reading this commentary. As someone who deals with the FDA and their guidance documents frequently, I was surprised that this particular document has been around and received little attention. But interestingly, this guidance document does exist and it can be found: Here: "Guidance for Industry and FDA Staff - Class II Special Controls Guidance Document: Implantable Radiofrequency Transponder System for Patient Identification and Health Information"
Without repeating Mr Chambers excellent commentary, there are a few points worth considering. First, an FDA guidance document isn't "legally binding", but in the industry everyone knows that they should comply with guidance documents and these documents are taken for "law" within the pharmaceutical industry, for a variety of reasons. Compliance with guidance documents is expected despite the caveats given in the introductory comments prior to each guidance document. Additionally, it is only a matter of time before guidance documents become formalized - it just takes longer to pass a formal mandate upon the follow-up process stemming from guidance documents.
What interests me is this: Someone or some group at the FDA is keenly aware that this is an issue worthy of the time and effort of producing a guidance document. These documents are well thought out and require a lot of work and consideration by the FDA. People in the pharmaceutical industry, for instance, often wait years for various expected guidance documents to appear because these documents must be recognized and complied with. They also require considerable resources and time for the FDA to produce and are carefully considered prior to publication- the industry takes these documents very seriously.
As mentioned in the commentary, the road is being paved for the arrival of the antichrist. So much is in place now - even more than I would have imagined - prior to the Tribulation. It amazes me how much of the work is already being done, prior to the arrival of the antichrist - whether its the global financial system which is being consolidated, a world that is turning against Israel more and more every day, persecution, a significantly weakened U.S. on the world stage, the rapid growth of the revived Roman Empire, the world's push for a M-E peace plan, and perhaps more germane to the central point here, "Project Galileo".
Project Galileo is the satellite system that the EU is launching - a system in which 30 satellites will be put into orbit and will have enormous capability - capability which would include tracking individuals and their movements, financial systems and individual's banking needs (ie, capability to "buy and sell" with paperless transactions) and health information could be stored and utilized. In other words, this system would conform perfectly to what will become "The Mark of the Beast":
From the EU websites:
"Galileo: What do we want to achieve?"
"Applications for Galileo"
It is coming - the Tribulation is coming towards us all - like a freight train. Fortunately we have a far better fate awaiting us.
I find it a little disconcerting that someone would definitively say that this device is not the mark of the beast.
While I believe most of what was said was very good by the gentleman you quoted, this is the exact kind of commentary that I believe to be very very dangerous. How does the author know this isn't the mark?
Scott, perhaps I will stop commenting after this comment, but I feel inclined to say the following. I truly have no intention of being divisive, but I have some concerns that I would like for you to consider.
The more I read the last paragraph of the quotes you posted (by Chambers) the less I like them. It may all be true, but it may all be false and that's what has my radar going off. I know you could interpret certain Scripture in such a way that you might conclude some of what he says there, but most of it is hopeful and frankly, I believe it will be much more subtle than what Chambers seems to indicate.
Furthermore, one of the reasons I don't take a definitive view of the timing of the rapture (aside from the fact that I don't think it is absolute in Scripture) is that I really believe a pre-trib rapture perspective may be a position that could be harmful to others. While everyone should be allowed to examine the Scriptures, I believe there are implications to a pre-trib rapture belief system that could be overwhelmingly bad if they are passively believed in by less mature believers.
Essentially everyone I know believes in the pre-trib rapture so I get it--I really do. But what if it doesn't go down that way? You may be fine, but is everyone who is being taught this theology going to be OK? I truly do not understand how anyone could be truly comfortable teaching this theology and not lie awake at night wondering about the implications of having this piece wrong.
If the Church believes it will be raptured before any of this happens, what happens if the Church isn't raptured before any of this happens?
Please consider this question.
I think this could be a matter of semantics.
Because taking this chip now, if someone so decided (I wouldn't for a variety of reasons) - is not associated with the antichrist - more specifically - not taken as a mandate and as an outward sign to worship and "pledge allegiance" to the antichrist - since these things aren't in effect, then technically its not the "mark of the beast"
I believe what you may be saying, is that you believe that this ("this" being: the technology, the implantable chip etc) will become the "mark", and I tend to agree with that.
But if someone today receives this chip and has it inserted - at this point it isn't associated with the antichrist specifically.
Thats my assumption anyway.
Chicago John, I certainly do understand your premise about a pre-trib rapture theology - for 40 years I didn't accept the possibility of a rapture.
But to my way of thinking, I'd rather go forward w/ the "hope" of a rapture, even if I'm disappointed in the end, than to face the next couple (several, few - whatever) of years dreading the times to come. If indeed the Church has a proper grasp of Christ's message to us - eternal life - I don't think it (the True Church) will suffer a mortal blow if there really isn't a rapture. We'll all go down together, knowing that Jesus is waiting for us.
The implications of being wrong about a pre-trib rapture are indeed momentous. But I'm not going to lay awake at night wondering.
Regarding the second comments about the Rapture and its relative timing - I have heard that point made many times before.
I don't think its a valid argument. I believe in the pre-trib doctrine for the reasons stated before, AND more importantly, I have never ever read an adequate answer to the following questions, which I believe all point to a pre-tribulation rapture.:
- A better explanation of 1 Thess. 1:10
- A better explanation of 2 Peter 2:9
- A better explanation of 1 Thess. 5
- A better explanation of Rev 3:10
- An explanation of why no rapture is mentioned in Rev 6-18 (assuming it were to happen during the tribulation)
- An explanation as to why the Church isn't mentioned in Rev 6-18
- A better explanation as to who the 24 elders are (if they are not representing the church)
If the above are not pre-trib verses - then I just need for someone to explain how these scriptures mean something else. I have never received any explanations that are even close to making the same degree of sense as a pre-trib rapture makes in terms of explaining these scriptures.
I'm not even getting into the nuances of dispensational views - in an effort to simplify.
To change my view on this array of scriptures, because of the premise that I (and others) could be wrong, and then there could potentially be some kind of harm done subsequently, doesn't make sense to me. I have to base my views on the scriptures alone - and thats my approach.
The simple fact is, I don't think there is any other explanation other than a pre-trib view.
To me, (and this will seem like an extreme example) - its almost like saying "what if we are wrong about Christ and the resurrection - won;t a lot of people be mad if we led then to Christ and they changed their lives for a false premise.(?) - No one would change their faith because of that possibility. Its kind of like that regarding a pre-trib view./
Having said that - I don't EVER get upset or argue at disagreements on this issue...It's not worth it and we're all brothers and sisters in Christ - entitled to different views on these nuances. I am way way past that. People can believe what they want. Fortunately, its not a matter of salvation.
But again, if someone - anyone - can come up with solid scriptural based arguments on the above scripture, they would have my ear - but I have yet to hear them.
Read Showers asap! :)
Thanks for the comments guys!
I am at work right now so I can't adequately reply to your comments. But I will spend some time tonight studying them and commenting back.
Thank you for allowing me the opportunity to still post here!
I think so many of these signs definately point to a change that we all are observing in world governance.My hope is less in our understanding what we are seeing than in God's faithfulness and unmatched mercies to keep drawing us in the meantime to Himself. We are to be alert and giving the household food , sustenance faithfully. Holding out the Word( christ) of truth in season and out.
Rev 14 makes it clear that there is a knowing choice in receiving the mark of the beast and consistant with NT teaching, we have none to fear but God Himself. Blessed are those who lose their liveds for persevering through the trial of refusing to take the mark.
It will not be a deception but a major choice of WHO do I worship?
At the end of a comment you wrote "read showers, asap".
Where do I find this at?
Sharon, the book being referred to is:
"Maranatha, Our Lord Comes" by Renald Showers
My last comment didn't appear. At the risk of duplication:
The title and author of the book is:
"Maranatha, Our Lord Comes" by Renald Showers
I believe there are other viable viewpoints in Scripture regarding the rapture other than a pre-trib rapture. While I believe the pre-trib rapture is possible, I cannot conclude with any degree of certainty that is the case and I believe the dogmatic (for lack of a better word) teaching of a pre-trib rapture lessens the preparedness of the Church if in fact we are asked to go through part of the tribulation (pre-wrath).
The fact is, we wouldn't be having a discussion about this if the Bible stated: "And the Church will be raptured before the 70th week of Daniel." It is only human interpretation of a number of verses of Scripture that gives rise to this view and frankly I believe the same verses could just as easily be interpreted differently--and I'm pretty sure I've read through all of them.
I won't go through a full defense of one of the other theories out there as it would take much more space than what is allowable here, but I will say that good and godly people disagree on the timing of the Rapture. I am content to say I don't know when it will occur and watch and pray with all of my brothers and sisters waiting for the Lord to reveal how he is going to do all of this.
Where I get nervous and what prompted my original remark is when teachers are so sure of their point of view that they are willing to teach that taking Obama's chip (or someone else's chip) is OK. There is a bit of an inference there that the mark of the beast could not be taken by believers because we won't be here. That is a very dangerous position to hold IMO.
Thanks for the comments - everyone.
Just a couple of points:
- I have a strong sense of conviction that we CANNOT allow feelings on prophecy "endpoints" and disagreements on prophecy to come between brothers and sisters in Christ. Nothing would please Satan more.
- I believe that the rationale for a pre-trib rapture are conclusive for the reasons stated so many times.
If folks disagree with that, thats ok - I don't feel the need nor desire to push the discussion further. I can point out the scriptures which we believe describe a pre-trib rapture - but I leave it at that. There just isn't that much time left.
What IS important - is that we recognize the signs and recognize that the "end" is rapidly approaching - and if we choose to disagree over a 3.5 or 7 year period - (ie the timing of the Rapture), then so be it.
Lets not allow that to distract from our primary purpose: To watch the signs and to recognize and teach that the last days are upon us, and the Christian world needs to wake up to this realization and quite possibly non-believers can find their way to Christ based on these facts.
Lets also not allow Satan to divide us - based on different views of the timing of the Rapture.
We are at the end of this age - almost everyone who watches prophecy and unfolding events agree to this - and this is my central mission now. This is what Jesus so passionately told us - to watch the signs.
God Bless everyone who comes to this site - and thanks for all of the input - it is greatly appreciated.
In the meanwhile - SPREAD THE NEWS:
JESUS IS COMING SOON!
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