Saturday, November 12, 2011

Israel Refuses To Tell U.S. Its Iran Intentions

This very interesting article was just posted on Drudge and it reveals inside information regarding U.S. - Israeli relationships which may be worse than previously thought. At least Israel is dealing with the reality of the situation. This a long article, well worth reading. Below are just a few quotes:

Israel refuses to tell US its Iran intentions

Israel has refused to reassure President Barack Obama that it would warn him in advance of any pre-emptive strike on Iran's nuclear capabilities, raising fears that it may be planning a go-it-alone attack as early as next summer.

The US leader was rebuffed last month when he demanded private guarantees that no strike would go ahead without White House notification, suggesting Israel no longer plans to "seek Washington's permission", sources said.

The disclosure, made by insiders briefed on a top-secret meeting between America's most senior defence chief and Benjamin Netanyahu, Israel's hawkish prime minister, comes amid concerns that Iran's continuing progress towards nuclear weapons capability means the Jewish state has all but lost hope for a diplomatic solution

Officially, his brief was restricted to the Middle East peace process, but the most important part of his mission was a private meeting with Mr Netanyahu and the defence minister, Ehud Barak. Once all but a handful of trusted staff had left the room, Mr Panetta conveyed an urgent message from Barack Obama.

The president, Mr Panetta said, wanted an unshakable guarantee that Israel would not carry out a unilateral military strike against Iran's nuclear installations without first seeking Washington's clearance.

The two Israelis were notably evasive in their response, according to sources both in Israel and the United States.
"They did not suggest that military action was being planned or was imminent, but neither did they give any assurances that Israel would first seek Washington's permission, or even inform the White House in advance that a mission was underway," one said.

This shouldn't be a huge surprise - what reason has the U.S. given Israel that they should be involved.

Alarmed by Mr Netanyahu's noncommittal response, Mr Obama reportedly ordered the US intelligence services to step up monitoring of Israel to glean clues of its intentions.

What those intentions might be remains distinctly murky. Over the past fortnight, Israel's press has given every impression that the country is on a war footing, with numerous claims that Mr Netanyahu and Mr Barak are lobbying the cabinet to support the military option.

Speculation about an imminent Israeli military action has been a regular occurrence over the years, but rarely as fevered as now. Last week, a British official even suggested that an attack could come before Christmas.

If Israel is to attack Iran, many in the country believe time is running out. Last week's report by the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) highlighted Iran's apparent determination to build a nuclear warhead, but did not indicate how long it might take.

Some in Israel, however, believe it is very close.

"It is my personal opinion that, if the Iranian regime decides to do so, it can produce a nuclear explosive device within a year, plus or minus a few months," said Ephraim Asculai, a former IAEA official and leading Israeli expert on Iran's nuclear programme.

The article also gives potential scenarios that will result from any Israeli military action:

As Mr Panetta warned during a Pentagon briefing last Thursday, such a strike would also have a "serious impact" on the region. Iran could blockade the Straits of Hormuz, through which 25 per cent of the world's oil exports are shipped, sending energy prices soaring. US military assets in the Gulf could come also come under attack from Iranian Scud missiles.

Iran would almost certainly fire its Shahab ballistic missiles at Israeli cities and press Hizbollah and Hamas, the militant Islamist groups it funds and equips, to unleash their huge rocket arsenals from their bases in Lebanon and Gaza.

Such are both the political and military risks involved that many Israelis say it is inconceivable that Mr Netanyahu would go to war without the United States alongside him.

The closing statement is always something to remember when it comes to Israel and their sense of self-preservation:

In Mr Netanyahu's eyes, Iran's president, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, is another "Hitler" whose aim is to complete what the Holocaust failed to do by wiping out the Jewish race.

"People outside Israel don't understand how profound memories of the Holocaust are, and how they affect future policy making," said Mr Bergman, the military analyst. "At the end of the day, this policy of 'never again' would dictate Israel's behaviour when intelligence comes through that Iran has come close to a bomb."

It appears that Israel has finally come to the conclusion that they cannot expect the U.S. to assist them when it comes to dealing with Iran. If the U.S. refuses to assist, then what is the point in informing the U.S of your plans? The idea that Israel is willing to complete this mission alone, without "approval" from the U.S. and, possibly not even informing the U.S. in advance, represents major deterioration in U.S.-Israeli relationships and it also seems to indicate a lack of trust between the two nations.


Robin said...

Can't say I blame Israel for their silence . . .Bibi has good reason to be suspicious of Obama's allegiance.

hartdawg said...

I would refer the readers of this site to the post posted yesterday "with friends like these" for prophecy to be fulfilled this abandonment had to take place....isreal stands alone. But not really for the Lord's on their side.

Anonymous said...

Yeh, ok Scott, I get your point about what you are saying re the
Jewish wedding model.

And yet, if you and Hal Lindsey
ARE CORRECT about the restrainer
being relieved of his duties, and
then the AC gets revealed, then
that MUST MEAN that the moment that
rapture hits, AC gets revealed, and

he immediately starts work on the
7 year peace treaty.......

AND I HIGHLY doubt that it would
take 2 years to consummate that,
is that correct ??

something to think about...

BTW please go here >>>>>

you will like this, I am sure.

ALSO, the Elliott Wave Model
is calling for trouble WAY before
next summer, we will see....

Stephen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Alice said...

Scott, just wondering what you think about this?

Anonymous said...

Scott please recover my post from spam.


Stephen >>>>>>>>>>>

Caver said...

Alice, thanks for the link....very alarming article and in line with whispers from several parts of the world these days. Ya just gotta wonder what is up, too many folk are saying the same thing.

Back to the OP, this is telling to me. If they are not going to even notify the US, then that appears to mean they don't trust the US, don't need the US, or a combination of the two. Suspect, to be accurate, one should substitute the word Obama for the word US.

You know they could use our radar jamming, aerial refueling, and diversion a any action. So, either they have already covered those bases with SA (possibly) or just flat don't trust us not to warn Iran, withdraw what assets we have there that keeps Iran's attention, or...even worse...try and actively stop their mission through active combat. Troubling, to say the least.

AND, the implications for us are huge...with warning we could take steps to prevent the Straits of Hormuz from being closed...and that's where the oil comes through. And we could help protect SA's oil fields...which Iran has promised to destroy.

Any way you look at this does not bode well for us....or Israel.

Scott said...


Thanks, I'll come back to this, this afternoon...On the run right now...Stephen, I'll take care of that

Caver - I agree with your thoughts wholeheartedly

RDBRUNO said...

In response to the Revised Roman Empire, interpreted by many scholars to be part of Daniels 70 weeks, I'm sorry to burst your bubble! There is no gap. The 70 weeks ended when Christ came the first time. The Dragon (Beast) with 10 heads and 7 horns is Islam. All the nations coming against Israel are spoken of in Ezek 38: Magog, Meshek, Tubal, Cush, Put, Persia, Ethiopia, Libya,Togarmah, Gomer. These present day countries include all Islamic (former Soviet Union) countries, Iran, Syria, Egypt, Yemen, Saudi Arabia, Iraq, Turkey, etc. This is key: 3 horns have been plucked out: Sadaam, Mubarek, Qadhafi. 1 "Little Horn" will emerge, the Antichrist. They have always been anti-christian and anti-Israel; it is only rational to think that they are the ones involved in the main battle in Revelation. Scriptures support this as well. So, it is not the EU that will become the beast.

Expected Imminently said...


That makes you a Preterist I think?

part of a ‘special’ group that have aquired ‘hidden knowledge’. i.e. Gnosticism.

If that’s the case, then you can answer the question who 666 is.

Why is it that Jerusalem is STILL a burdensome stone to the nations?

When was the Temple rebuilt after it’s destruction in A.D 70 so that the beast could enter. If you remember, Islam, didn’t begin until 540 years after the destruction of Herod’s Temple.

What are the names of the two witnesses.

Which years did the 3 year world-wide drought occur.

What are just a few of the names of the 144,000.

So many questions – that’s just for starters.

Expected Imminently said...

Forgot to add the Scripture.

Revelation 12:3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having SEVEN HEADS and TEN HORNS, and SEVEN CROWNS upon his heads.