Monday, August 7, 2017

Signs Of The Times


[I've been intending to post this one for a few days - thanks to George for finding this interesting and timely article...One note, I deleted one sentence in which the author stated that the U.S. would be destroyed in an hour; probably referencing Rev 18, an idea that is speculative at best w/o offering any scriptural proof. Otherwise this is sound]

Can we even know beforehand?
Before we go any further, the logical question we should ask is, "Can we know ahead of time when the Rapture will take place?" The answer is "not exactly."
For those who are new to Compass, we loathe those who set hard, absolute dates for The Rapture or 2nd Coming. But we believe the Bible teaches that we can, and should, observe any and all OBVIOUS signs to determine if we're getting close. Consider this verse:
"For you yourselves know full well that the day of the Lord will come just like a thief in the night. While they are saying, "Peace and safety!" then destruction will come upon them suddenly like labor pains upon a woman with child, and they will not escape. But you, brethren, are not in darkness, that the day would overtake you like a thief; for you are all sons of light and sons of day. We are not of night nor of darkness; so then let us not sleep as others do, but let us be alert and sober. 1Th. 5:2-6
That verse tells us that the coming of the Lord at Rapture will come without warning only for non-Believers. But Believers are encouraged to be alert to the OBVIOUS signs because we have the discerning light of God's Holy Spirit.
Therefore, it's incumbent on Believers to be alert to OBVIOUS prophetic signs that the current Church Age dispensation, the Biblical time period in which we live, is coming to a booming close.
The Rapture of the Believers on the earth will make way for the next dispensation to begin-a horrific 7-year period referred to as "Tribulation," "The Time of Jacob's Trouble" or "The 70th Week of Daniel." (Matt. 24:21; Jer. 30:7; Dan. 9:24-27)

So how's everything stacking up this year?
Sign #1 Israel
It's an exciting time to be alive as we're living in the generation that saw God, as prophesied, begin bringing the Jews back to their homeland. So our first gauge is to look at Israel. We've written many articles about their God ordained return to their homeland.
The main reason to watch Israel is that soon after the Rapture, the Jews will again be in the prime-time of God's earthy dealings-God will come out of His Self-imposed slumber and the entire world will know it. The heaven and earth will be shaken to its core as He lets the world know that He is the Creator God and Israel is His chosen nation.
Watching Israel being primed for this change is fascinating. We can also observe the prophesies regarding her latter-day enemies. Ezekiel 38 and 39 discuss, among other things, the last-days invasion by those from the areas of Russia (Gog), Iran (Persia) and others.(4)
'Thus says the Lord GOD, "It will come about on that day, that thoughts will come into your mind and you will devise an evil plan, and you will say, 'I will go up against the land of unwalled villages. I will go against those who are at rest, that live securely, all of them living without walls and having no bars or gates, to capture spoil and to seize plunder, to turn your hand against the waste places which are now inhabited, and against the people who are gathered from the nations, who have acquired cattle and goods,...' Ezek. 38:10-12
The stated purpose for the invasion is to capture riches in the land of Israel-which begs the question, "What spoil? What riches?"
When Israel became a nation in 1948 she had no known natural riches for which a hostile sovereign nation would invade. In fact, Golda Meir, Israel's Prime Minister in 1969-1974, often quipped that Moses wandered the desert for 40 years and unfortunately settled in the only place that didn't have oil.
But recently that's changed. A couple of years ago Israel discovered massive gas reservoirs just off her coast.(6A) And within the last year or so Israel discovered a massive oil reservoir To grant those who mourn in Zion, giving them a garland instead of ashes, the oil of gladness instead of mourning, within her borders!(5) And there are other oil exploration companies are currently drilling there.(6)
It's possible Israel's government has put out the word to their media not to publicize these oil and discoveries so as not to give the surrounding Arab nations another reason to come after them. But the oil discovery within Israel's borders was described as huge.
BTW-All that Middle Eastern Oil is another proof that the Bible is 100% accurate. The massive amounts of oil in the Middle East is obviously due to Noah's flood burying the lush and plentiful plants in-and-around the Garden of Eden. These buried plants naturally turned to oil (11) and today Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Iraq, etc., and now Israel, benefit from the destruction of Noah's worldwide flood.
So, because of Israel's relatively close proximity to the original Garden of Eden, it's not surprising that Israel also has massive oil reserves under its land. The question is simply "how much?"
Some oil experts have theorized that Israel has more oil under her land than all the other middle eastern nations combined. And looming in the future is the prophesied Russia/Iran invasion to come after her riches-an invasion that takes place, we believe, within a few days after the Rapture.(4)
The Israeli oil and gas discoveries mean the prophecy of Israel being so dog-gone wealthy in the latter days is being fulfilled right under our noses.(7) And when the Rapture takes place, and the Holy Spirit Restrainer is removed from the earth, Russia will obviously "devise an evil plan" and invade Israel.
All this is detailed in Ezek. 38 and 39. The result of this invasion is that Israel is miraculously protected by God, Russia/Iran/others suffer a humiliating defeat and the Jews are awakened out of their spiritual slumber.

Sign #2 Signs In The Skies
"Then God said, "Let there be lights in the expanse of the heavens to separate the day from the night, and let them be for signs and for seasons and for days and years;" Gen. 1:14
The first reason the Lord gave us for His creating the sun, moon and stars is to be for "signs." Throughout the Bible He has used the sun for miraculous signs- i.e. The long day of Joshua, three hours of darkness when Jesus died on the cross, etc. (Joshua 10:12-14; Luke 23:44)
One of God's signs is a solar eclipse where the sun's light is blocked by the moon. It's interesting that if the earth and moon were .04% further apart, or closer together, there would be no eclipses to view.(8)
On August 21, 2017, there will be a solar eclipse on the earth. This full eclipse of the sun's light will only be seen in the United States, cutting a path from the Northwest to the Southeast.
This is the first time in the history of the United States that a total eclipse will touch only the United States.
But what makes this eclipse raise even more eyebrows is that another eclipse will do the same thing-exactly seven years from now, again seen ONLY IN THE UNITED STATES. Seven years-how interesting!
But rather than NW to SE, in seven years the eclipse will be from the SW to the NE, creating a big X on our nation.

Scientists have recently been studying the link between the sun, moon and earthquakes.(10) So it's most interesting that the eclipse will cross through the two main earthquake zones in America: Cascadia Subduction Fault Zone in the Coastal Northwest and the New Madrid Fault Zone in the heart of the Midwest.
Most people are aware of the West Coast's affinity for earthquakes. But the middle of the U.S. has also had its problems. The last time there was a big earthquake in the New Madrid Fault Zone, in 1812, the land movements were so severe it caused the Mississippi River to run backwards for several hours!(12) Over 1200 miles away in Boston, MA, it rattled plates off the walls and caused church bells to ring.(12)
Of course, in 1812, the New Madrid Fault Zone area was sparsely populated. Today it is estimated that a similar earthquake would be twice the problem of Katrina.(13)
The eclipse also cuts across volcanoes in the northwest like the recently active Mt. St. Helens and the unbelievably large, but long-time dormant, caldera in Yellowstone National Park. The Lord may have used the numerous volcanoes around the world as water portals for the flood of Noah.(16) So hope those things stay put for now!
We're not predicting anything. Just pointing out that the paths of these eclipses, this year and seven years from now, are quite unique and interesting. So buy some approved glasses and watch this amazing eclipse! More eclipse info at the bottom of this article. (17)
Sign #3 The Corrected Jewish Calendar
For all my Christian life I've wondered why the Jewish Calendar was so far off. The Jews, always trying to keep the letter of the Law, are so precise in everything Biblical that they do. But the Jewish calendar says we're in the year 5777. And common sense says that's off by some 200+ years.
James Ussher, an Irish bishop, wrote an incredible book on biblical chronology in the early 1650s. Using Biblical lineage, he sets the date from the Garden of Eden to Jesus' birth to be 4004 BC. So by simply adding 2017 since Jesus' birth to the 4004 years before Jesus' birth, it totals to 6021 years from Adam to today.
6021 is an interesting number because Jesus died in 30AD. And if you add seven years for the Tribulation, we're within a couple of years of completing two thousand years of the Church Age.
We wrote an article back in the 1990s suggesting that the seven-day creation week was God's template of all time, James Ussher one 24-hour day equaling 1000 years. After 4000 years, Jesus came in the 5th and 6th day, bringing life.(14)
But the Jewish calendar shows we're in year 5777. So, being that far off I never paid much attention to it. Until now!
It turns out, according to an interview I watched of Michael Norten at a Texas prophecy conference last week, that in 160 AD a Jewish rabbi named Yose Ben Halafta first created the Jewish calendar. But he strangely subtracted some 200+ years from his total years counting from Adam.
Purportedly, the reason for the change was that Ben Halafta realized that dating the calendar using a literal method would point to Jesus being the Messiah. He apparently saw that the prophecy in Daniel 9-483 years from the beginning of rebuilding Jerusalem's walls to the coming Messiah, would point directly to Jesus as the Messiah. Oh dear, can't have that!
So the theory is that Ben Halafta subtracted some 200+ years from the Jewish calendar so the Daniel 9 prophecy would not point to Jesus' Triumphal entry into Jerusalem.
When you add back 200 years to 5777, you get 5977. Add 7 years for Tribulation and you get 5984, which is getting close to 6000 total years.
And who knows how many total years he subtracted! Norten believes it was 214! That would mean the Jewish calendar should be 5998. And in September, Tishri 1, the Jewish new year, it will be 5999!

Why is 6,000 years so interesting?
I've taught for over 30 years that God's creation week of six 24-hour days and nights and one 24-hour day and night of rest is His divine template of earthly time.(13) In other words, when the Lord created time, He created 7000 total years from beginning to end.
It's called the "Day-Age" theory and it fits like a glove. God created time and everything He does is perfect. So how many total years would He create? It would obviously be a multiple of seven, His number He uses all through the Bible for completion.(15)
Not to mention that there are two verses where God pointedly refers to one day being "like" a 1000 years.
But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day. 2Pet. 3:8
For a thousand years in Your sight are like yesterday when it passes by, or as a watch in the night. Psa. 90:4
Therefore, the first four days of creation would be a template the first 4000 years of human history. No life was created in the first four 24-hour days.
Then, after 4000 years of recorded history, Jesus came to earth and brought "life," in day five of the template.
"I came that they may have life, and have it abundantly." John 10:10b
Therefore, on the 5th day of the divine template (Five is God's number for grace) Jesus arrived bringing "life."
The 5th and 6th days of the template are referred to in scripture in several places. In Hosea, there's an odd and unfulfilled prophecy:
"Come, let us return to the LORD. For He has torn us, but He will heal us; He has wounded us, but He will bandage us. He will revive us after two days; He will raise us up on the third day, that we may live before Him." Hos. 6:1-2
This remarkable unfulfilled prophecy states that Israel would be wounded and torn for two days, but that God will raise them up on the third day and they will live in His presence. No one seems to be able to explain this verse.
But if you apply this verse inside the 7000-year template, the prophecy states that for 2000 years, Israel will be wounded and torn, but not destroyed. And after the 2000 years, God would raise Israel up to live in His presence for one day, which equals 1000 years.
Well, that's what happened. We know for a fact that Israel rejected her Messiah and for almost exactly 2000 years, Israel has been scattered around the world, torn and bruised. Israel is waiting for the "third day" where they will live in His presence.
God is currently gathering the Jews once again in their homeland where they will soon begin living in their Messiah's world-ruling presence for 1000 years. "Blessed and holy is the one who has a part in the first resurrection; over these the second death has no power, but they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with Him for a thousand years." Rev. 20:6
The 7th day of the Creation Week, God rested. This equates to the 1000-year reign of Jesus on the earth. 4000 + 2000 + 1000 = 7000 total years.
There are also other verses that fit this 7000-year template theory. For instance, when Jesus was on the earth, the only time period recorded in the Bible that He went to the  non-Jews, the Samaritans, was specifically for "two days."
"So when the Samaritans came to Jesus, they were asking Him to stay with them; and He stayed there two days." John 4:40
"After the two days He went forth from there into Galilee." John 4:43
Applying this to our 7000year divine template, the "two days" would be the 2000 years of Jesus going to the Gentiles. And after that 2000 years, He would return to the Jews for "one day," or 1000 years, which is, of course, the Millennial reign of Christ with Jesus living and reigning from Jerusalem.
Another fascinating example is Exodus 19.
The LORD also said to Moses, "Go to the people and consecrate them today and tomorrow, and let them wash their garments; and let them be ready for the third day, for on the third day the LORD will come down on Mount Sinai in the sight of all the people. Ex. 19:10-11
This one gives me chill bumps. Buried in the Old Testament is a direct reference to the Church Age and the Millennial Reign of Christ.
"Today and tomorrow" are days 5 and 6 of our template- the Church Age, where we are "washed" or cleansed by the blood of Jesus. The "third day" is, of course, the 1000-year Millennium where the Jews will live with Jesus on the throne in Jerusalem-"in the sight of all."
So we believe God laid out 4000 years of time before Jesus came and brought life for 2000 years, 6000 total. We still have remaining 1000 years of rest, which is Jesus' reign as King of the Earth.
This 7000-year Divine Template makes the end of 6000 years of human history quite interesting!
As for the timing of the Rapture being this year-we may not know the day nor the hour, but it sure is fun watching for the season! It WILL happen one day in the future!.


foretastes said...

For years I've thought that Feast of Trumpets fits perfectly with the time of the rapture. The Jewish alternate names and symbolism for this moedim are amazing...

- The Day and Hour No Man Knows
- The Day of Concealment
- The Hidden Day
- Day of Blowing of Trumpets
- Day of the Last Trump
- Day of Awakening Blast
- Day of Jacob’s Trouble
- The Opening of the Gates, Books, etc
- The Day of KING’s Coronation (Messiah)
- The Wedding of the Messiah

If that weren't enough we do see so much now converging and culminating. And more understanding is being revealed to us such as RFID technology moving forward for the Mark of the Beast, prophetic wars lining up with all the players in play, and even this so-called Revelation 12 sign.

I do believe this sign is genuine, irrefutable and one for which to take note. Those that have truly researched and promote this are NOT saying this September 22-24 is in fact the time of the rapture, but it is in fact a sign to watch as these stars, planets, sun, moon and constellations are truly and uniquely aligning as per Revelation 12:1-2 in the sky at this time. To me it is icing on the prophetic cake. It's like Jesus is shouting, "I AM coming so very soon. Watch! Look up!"

If anyone would like more information on this sign I encourage you to check out and

Regardless of what one thinks about this sign, we can still be encouraged and excited that our time here is shorter than it's ever been. We're going Home soon. I want to keep "occupying until" the best I can with all of God's grace and keep praying for lost loved ones to come to know our Jesus.

Iriosal said...

I found this article to be quite condescending. After reading the sentence that started "we loathe those who set hard, absolute dates for The Rapture or 2nd Coming" I was turned off. What a way to speak about fellow believers. He then goes on to say "If this were truly a sign from God, it's doubtful He would hide it in a constellation from 99.99999% of the world." Yet, he goes on to say that the American eclipse is a great sign! Most of the world can't see that either! You can't have it both ways. He seems a bit confused.

Mrs.C said...

Oh boy...there's gonna be some long responses from little ole me on both the article and the Rev

Scott said...

I noticed that and agree it wasa little strong. In the past i may have not posted this but because of the closeness of the hour i plan on posting more commentsry than usual. Havibg said that, i can see where hes coming from. There have been some well known people in the past who fixated on a date (1988 comes to mind) which created a lot of hype only to result in nothing. Such acts have turned a lot off on prophecy and a lot of skeptics. Its really hurt our cause a LOT. So i can see where that passion comes from

Scott said...

Lets dont get distracted in these deep weeds. Imo we really are getting very very very close to the hour and imo should be focused on

Mrs.C said...

Have to respectfully disagree with you Brother Dave :) Revelation 12 has nothing to do with a "sign" at all :)
Revelation 12:1 It begins by stating "a great sign appeared in heaven” We have the KJV, referring to a “great wonder in Heaven”, and the NKJV referring to a “great sign appeared in Heaven”. So we have the difference of whether it is a “sign” or “wonder”, either way God does not say that it is something the whole world will see, or He would say that, but rather it is John continuing to describe what he sees. John saw a “door open” in Heaven for example.

Revelation 12:1 KJV
 1And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:
Revelation 12:1 (NKJV)
 1 Now a great sign appeared in heaven:

Revelation 12:2 The “woman” is in “Heaven” just as he says this vision is that he sees. This has nothing to do with a constellation, or astrology , but everything to do with Israel.
Revelation 12:2
 1And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

It as a reference to Israel in the past, not the future. Genisis 37:9 The sun refers to Jacob, the moon Rachel, Jacob's wife and the 12 stars the sons of Jacob and the 12 tribes of Israel (Jacob). The “sun”, “moon”, and “eleven stars” all bowed to Joseph. Jacob God renamed Israel. that the biblical symbolism of Genesis 37:9-11 clearly refers to Israel.

Scott said...

That was my understanding but its been many years since ive studied Rev 12. Ill give you the last word on this

foretastes said...

Hi Mrs.C - The word in the Greek is sémeion. According to Strong's it means a sign, a miracle or an indication. The important thing is that the verse (Rev. 12:1) says: "Now a great sign appeared in heaven..." You can call it a wonder. The fact is that what follows in that passage is playing out in heaven. The word "heaven" there in the Greek is ouranos, which means the visible heavens (the atmosphere, the sky, the starry heavens).

Before making any judgements on this I encourage anyone, who is interested, to do some honest research into this sign and the wonder of it playing out in the sky this September. It is fascinating. That is what I believe anyway. John wrote down what he saw with this sign, just as he wrote down what he saw with every other detail in Revelation.

This no doubt has unfortunately become a bone of contention within the preTrib watching Body. Some have become dogmatic in saying that this date must be the rapture, but most, including myself, are saying that it's sign to watch. Jesus told us to watch for the signs of the end days. I believe this is strong one and it "just happens" to be playing out on none other than the Feast of Trumpets.

“And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations…”
“And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth night.” —Luke 21:25,28

But, bottom line is, and this I think we can all agree on, JESUS IS COMING VERY SOON! There are plenty of other signs screaming at us, telling us so. Maranatha!!

Scott said...

So much for the last word lol. But so far everything reasonable and i like this exchange but lets focus on the big prize and not make it personal.

foretastes said...

Amen, Scott. It's okay to disagree on these minor issues. Onto to major issues... Planet X... have you heard of it? Just kidding!! Jesus... the Author and Perfecter of our faith. And I can't wait to get pefected. I'm so tired of this bag of flesh!

Scott said...

Amen to that. Same here. Ready to move on from this place

Mrs.C said...

Hey Brother Dave :) We will have to agree to disagree :) What folks are doing, is taking the first Verse of Revelation 12 and trying to make it something it simply is not. In context of the entire Chapter, it is very clear what God is speaking of, and it is not a "sign". Why do these folks always ignore the context, and the other Verses?
God is giving a historical account of His People, the brief linage, and what is to come for the Jewish Believers of the Tribulation, it has nothing to do with the Rapture nor the Church. It is all about Israel, His People, Jewish Believers of the Tribulation. The "signs" Jesus spoke of in Matthew 24 were directed to the Jewish Believers of the Tribulation. We are not in the Tribulation. :) Luke 21, again, is speaking of the Coming of the Lord, the Tribulation, not the Rapture. The Tribulation & the Rapture, will not occur at the same time. :)
Lets see what comes after Rev 12:1 :)
Verse 1 - John saw “a great sign.” In John’s writings, a “sign”3 is a symbol pointing to something else.The fact that this “woman” is spoken of as “a great sign” emphasizes that John is not referring to a literal woman. Some suggest that it is specifically speaking of the Virgin Mary. Others have identified the woman as the church. Yet, the best option is to understand this woman as a symbolic reference to Israel. This is evident for the following reasons: (1) Israel is often identified as a woman in the Old Testament and is more specifically called God’s wife. (2) The image of the sun, moon, and twelve stars most definitely seems to be an allusion to Joseph’s dream in Genesis 37:9-11, where the sun and moon are identified as Joseph’s parents and the 12 stars represent the twelve sons of Jacob (ultimately the 12 tribes)
Genesis 37:9
 9And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me.

Mrs.C said...

Revelation 12:3 Is satan, and Vs. 9 tells us that.

Revelation 12:4 -5 The past conflict between the seed of the woman and the seed of the serpent (Gen. 3:15) is rehearsed in verses 4 and 5. A third of the stars having been swept away by the dragon's tail tells us that a third of the angels fell and followed Satan in his original revolt. The male child of verse 5 is Jesus the Messiah who is the seed of the woman and the one that the dragon is really at war with.

Revelation 12:6 The Remnant Jewish Believers flee to the wilderness, most likely Petra, where God takes care of them for the final 3 ½ years of the Trib.

Revelation 12:7-12 The historic conflict between Christ and Satan reaches a climax in heaven where Satan and his demons are cast out of heaven to the earth at the midpoint of the seven-year tribulation period (Rev. 12:7-12). Satan's defeat is first accomplished in heaven by Michael and his angels in preparation for the final defeat of the dragon on earth three and a half years later at the second coming (Rev. 20:1-3).

Revelation 12:13-17 Is the future for the Jewish Believers in Israel. God will protect the remnant supernaturally as noted by the phrase "two wings of the great eagle." This is a figure of speech used in the Exodus (Ex. 19:4; Deut. 32:10-11) to speak of God's divine intervention as the Jews leave Jerusalem and the surrounding areas and are protected in Petra. satan launches an effort to track down the Jewish people, but God's protection overcomes his efforts. "And the serpent poured water like a river out of his mouth after the woman, so that he might cause her to be swept away with the flood" (Rev. 12:15). In context it appears that satan's pouring out water like a river from his mouth after the woman could be metaphor for military pursuit. He sends out his armies to search for the Jewish people who are in hiding. The intent of his pursuit is to destroy the Jews as stated in the figure of speech "so that he might cause her to be swept away with the flood."
In spite of satan's great efforts God hides and protects his people. "And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and drank up the river which the dragon poured out of his mouth" (Rev. 12:16). God uses the rugged and mountainous terrain of the wilderness to counteract satan's efforts at destroying the Jewish Remnant. Satan gives up his search and in his anger goes after other Jewish believers, which could likely the 144,000 Jewish witnesses (Rev. 7:1-8; 14:1-3) who are scattered across the world.
His Word tells us, that it is His People, the Apple of His Eye, the Jewish Remnant, that “keep the Commandments” and also have the Testimony of Jesus.
Revelation 12
. 17And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.

George said...

What caught my interesting in this article was the corrected Jewish calendar. Does anyone have any thoughts about this.

All these articles have some good and some bad theology. Like the statement that Scott deleted. I don't know where that came from.
Many doubts on the star sign. Heard that it happens midday. Planet X "not". I do know we are all looking forward to the most glorious event next to the first coming of Christ

foretastes said...

Hi Mrs.C... There is so much solid research that has been done to support the Rev. 12 sign as a genuine sign. I gave two such websites. We will agree to disagree! Soon all our questions will be answered and the debating done. I can't wait! God bless.

Alice said...

Amen, Brother Dave. And you are very patient and kind. :)

Unknown said...

Great debate not taking sides but we all will be in heaven soon. Love reading the comments

Mrs.C said...

Hey George :) As Zola Levitt used to say, the Jewish Calendar has been messed with by Rabbi's for so many years, who knows what the real date is! lol Over the centuries, they have added "leap years", decided that they would start with Adam, then not to start with Adam, you get the picture. Just a couple of examples. What is most important, that God Himself knows EXACTLY what date it is :)

"The missing years in the Hebrew calendar refer to a chronological discrepancy between Talmudic chronologists for the destruction of the First Temple in 423 BCE (3338 AM)[1] and the modern secular dating for it in 587 BCE"

"According to rabbinic reckoning, the beginning of "year 1" is not Creation, but about one year before Creation, with the new moon of its first month (Tishrei) to be called molad tohu (the mean new moon of chaos or nothing)"

Mrs.C said...

Yes indeed Brother Dave, the Church Age is coming to a y'all under the Tree of Life! and y'all can come over to Caver's and mine Mansion for dinner! lol :) be face to face with our Lord....WOW! Will I dance in His presence, or to my knees will I fall...I can only imagine :) Oh, and as Zola,(who now knows) used to say, he would have wonderful chats with the Saints.Both OT & New T! I want to ask Paul what exactly was the "thorn"? :)Whats most important,is that God has great confidence in each one of us to have allowed us to be born into this generation at the edge of all time! To be privileged to Witness for His Son, bring as many to Christ as we can, at such a time as this is humbling, and awesome...:) God Bless & keep you too Brother :)

Mrs.C said...

Hey Brother George, I did respond to your question about the Jewish Calendar...dont know where the post is? :) Hopefully Brother Scott can find it :)

foretastes said...

What a day of rejoicing that will be, Mrs.C! "I Can Only Imagine" <So love that song.

Heather said...

Is it possible, and I am just throwing it out there for speculation and godly discussion, but is it possible that there are multiple meanings to a passage. Like an onion that has layers peeled away. My pastor spoke a long time ago about a passage sometimes having triple meanings because God has a depth we do not have. For example: the phrase "no man knows the day or hour," most of us believe this has to do with the second coming of Christ (not the rapture) and is on the Feast of Trumpets... but could it also mean exactly what it says? That Christ will come back and no man knows the day or hour? In my search for what actual year it really is all I have found is confusion from scholars. No one seems to know what year it actually is. So today may be labeled as Tuesday, August 8, 2017, but the reality is no one knows if it actually is a Tuesday, the month of August, the eighth day, in the year 2017... I guess my point is that man's thinking and assumptions are flawed, but God's word is truth and much deeper than we realize or can understand. When we look back on this time and history past, I have a feeling we will understand so much more than we do now. I read Paul's words in 1 Corinthians 13:12, "For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I have been fully known." For all our study of the scriptures and prophecy, even for all our hope in the promised future - what we understand is not even close to God's reality because we see "dimly." I long for the day when I stand in God's presence, surrounded by His holiness, and see clearly for the first time in my life.

I just want to let y'all know that I greatly appreciate the time y'all take to post comments. I have lurked on this website for many, many years. I very much appreciate Scott's efforts and check this page daily. Thank you all for your diligence in Bible study, your encouragement of each other, and your sharpening of each other. One day in eternity, I hope to meet y'all face to face. Lord willing that time will be very soon. Stay diligent as watchman for our deliverance is not far away now. Maranatha!

Scott said...

Nicely done Heather thanks and welcome. Just one point. When Jesus said no one knows the day or the hour, it has to be a reference to the gathering up because if you are living in the trib you can cslculate the number of days until the second advent. (Calculate). Not only from beginning of trib (dan 9:27) but again from the midpoint of the trib. Plus interestingly the feast of trumpets is aslo referred to as the feast in which no one knows the day or hour. Matanatha and thanks again

George said...

Excellent comment Heather. Thank you Mrs C, and thanks Scott for all you do.