tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post1866790598201600302..comments2024-03-28T16:05:02.847-04:00Comments on PROPHECY UPDATE: Signs Of The TimesUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger24125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-20231809752974461242017-08-08T11:40:54.724-04:002017-08-08T11:40:54.724-04:00Excellent comment Heather. Thank you Mrs C, and th...Excellent comment Heather. Thank you Mrs C, and thanks Scott for all you do. Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08836581302133094933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-5215669248205165342017-08-08T09:26:26.786-04:002017-08-08T09:26:26.786-04:00Nicely done Heather thanks and welcome. Just one p...Nicely done Heather thanks and welcome. Just one point. When Jesus said no one knows the day or the hour, it has to be a reference to the gathering up because if you are living in the trib you can cslculate the number of days until the second advent. (Calculate). Not only from beginning of trib (dan 9:27) but again from the midpoint of the trib. Plus interestingly the feast of trumpets is aslo referred to as the feast in which no one knows the day or hour. Matanatha and thanks againScotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00403649419538752058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-70151694541061499242017-08-08T08:22:46.332-04:002017-08-08T08:22:46.332-04:00Is it possible, and I am just throwing it out ther...Is it possible, and I am just throwing it out there for speculation and godly discussion, but is it possible that there are multiple meanings to a passage. Like an onion that has layers peeled away. My pastor spoke a long time ago about a passage sometimes having triple meanings because God has a depth we do not have. For example: the phrase "no man knows the day or hour," most of us believe this has to do with the second coming of Christ (not the rapture) and is on the Feast of Trumpets... but could it also mean exactly what it says? That Christ will come back and no man knows the day or hour? In my search for what actual year it really is all I have found is confusion from scholars. No one seems to know what year it actually is. So today may be labeled as Tuesday, August 8, 2017, but the reality is no one knows if it actually is a Tuesday, the month of August, the eighth day, in the year 2017... I guess my point is that man's thinking and assumptions are flawed, but God's word is truth and much deeper than we realize or can understand. When we look back on this time and history past, I have a feeling we will understand so much more than we do now. I read Paul's words in 1 Corinthians 13:12, "For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I have been fully known." For all our study of the scriptures and prophecy, even for all our hope in the promised future - what we understand is not even close to God's reality because we see "dimly." I long for the day when I stand in God's presence, surrounded by His holiness, and see clearly for the first time in my life.<br /><br />I just want to let y'all know that I greatly appreciate the time y'all take to post comments. I have lurked on this website for many, many years. I very much appreciate Scott's efforts and check this page daily. Thank you all for your diligence in Bible study, your encouragement of each other, and your sharpening of each other. One day in eternity, I hope to meet y'all face to face. Lord willing that time will be very soon. Stay diligent as watchman for our deliverance is not far away now. Maranatha!Heatherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12066497704525946135noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-66945235831252636122017-08-08T05:41:34.349-04:002017-08-08T05:41:34.349-04:00What a day of rejoicing that will be, Mrs.C! "...What a day of rejoicing that will be, Mrs.C! "I Can Only Imagine" <So love that song. foretasteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15169961812131189084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-51715098866085315672017-08-07T23:12:18.842-04:002017-08-07T23:12:18.842-04:00Hey Brother George, I did respond to your question...Hey Brother George, I did respond to your question about the Jewish Calendar...dont know where the post is? :) Hopefully Brother Scott can find it :) Mrs.Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16424337265401319623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-9997671676574009582017-08-07T22:53:23.917-04:002017-08-07T22:53:23.917-04:00Yes indeed Brother Dave, the Church Age is coming ...Yes indeed Brother Dave, the Church Age is coming to a close...meet y'all under the Tree of Life! and y'all can come over to Caver's and mine Mansion for dinner! lol :)<br />Awe...to be face to face with our Lord....WOW! Will I dance in His presence, or to my knees will I fall...I can only imagine :) Oh, and as Zola,(who now knows) used to say, he would have wonderful chats with the Saints.Both OT & New T! I want to ask Paul what exactly was the "thorn"? :)Whats most important,is that God has great confidence in each one of us to have allowed us to be born into this generation at the edge of all time! To be privileged to Witness for His Son, bring as many to Christ as we can, at such a time as this is humbling, and awesome...:) God Bless & keep you too Brother :)Mrs.Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16424337265401319623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-72434819402098065902017-08-07T22:32:14.281-04:002017-08-07T22:32:14.281-04:00Hey George :) As Zola Levitt used to say, the Jewi...Hey George :) As Zola Levitt used to say, the Jewish Calendar has been messed with by Rabbi's for so many years, who knows what the real date is! lol Over the centuries, they have added "leap years", decided that they would start with Adam, then not to start with Adam, you get the picture. Just a couple of examples. What is most important, that God Himself knows EXACTLY what date it is :)<br /><br />"The missing years in the Hebrew calendar refer to a chronological discrepancy between Talmudic chronologists for the destruction of the First Temple in 423 BCE (3338 AM)[1] and the modern secular dating for it in 587 BCE"<br /><br />"According to rabbinic reckoning, the beginning of "year 1" is not Creation, but about one year before Creation, with the new moon of its first month (Tishrei) to be called molad tohu (the mean new moon of chaos or nothing)"Mrs.Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16424337265401319623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-81039707561565089202017-08-07T22:02:06.545-04:002017-08-07T22:02:06.545-04:00Great debate not taking sides but we all will be i...Great debate not taking sides but we all will be in heaven soon. Love reading the commentsAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18335978426142999279noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-35298393248244881332017-08-07T21:56:14.636-04:002017-08-07T21:56:14.636-04:00Amen, Brother Dave. And you are very patient and k...Amen, Brother Dave. And you are very patient and kind. :)Alicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03440990812353695096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-3625686883498231582017-08-07T21:28:24.694-04:002017-08-07T21:28:24.694-04:00Hi Mrs.C... There is so much solid research that h...Hi Mrs.C... There is so much solid research that has been done to support the Rev. 12 sign as a genuine sign. I gave two such websites. We will agree to disagree! Soon all our questions will be answered and the debating done. I can't wait! God bless.foretasteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15169961812131189084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-53711603971590914922017-08-07T21:27:00.381-04:002017-08-07T21:27:00.381-04:00What caught my interesting in this article was the...What caught my interesting in this article was the corrected Jewish calendar. Does anyone have any thoughts about this. <br /><br />All these articles have some good and some bad theology. Like the statement that Scott deleted. I don't know where that came from.<br />Many doubts on the star sign. Heard that it happens midday. Planet X "not". I do know we are all looking forward to the most glorious event next to the first coming of Christ Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08836581302133094933noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-35399046082206504422017-08-07T19:22:25.959-04:002017-08-07T19:22:25.959-04:00Revelation 12:3 Is satan, and Vs. 9 tells us that....Revelation 12:3 Is satan, and Vs. 9 tells us that.<br /><br />Revelation 12:4 -5 The past conflict between the seed of the woman and the seed of the serpent (Gen. 3:15) is rehearsed in verses 4 and 5. A third of the stars having been swept away by the dragon's tail tells us that a third of the angels fell and followed Satan in his original revolt. The male child of verse 5 is Jesus the Messiah who is the seed of the woman and the one that the dragon is really at war with.<br /><br />Revelation 12:6 The Remnant Jewish Believers flee to the wilderness, most likely Petra, where God takes care of them for the final 3 ½ years of the Trib.<br /><br />Revelation 12:7-12 The historic conflict between Christ and Satan reaches a climax in heaven where Satan and his demons are cast out of heaven to the earth at the midpoint of the seven-year tribulation period (Rev. 12:7-12). Satan's defeat is first accomplished in heaven by Michael and his angels in preparation for the final defeat of the dragon on earth three and a half years later at the second coming (Rev. 20:1-3). <br /><br />Revelation 12:13-17 Is the future for the Jewish Believers in Israel. God will protect the remnant supernaturally as noted by the phrase "two wings of the great eagle." This is a figure of speech used in the Exodus (Ex. 19:4; Deut. 32:10-11) to speak of God's divine intervention as the Jews leave Jerusalem and the surrounding areas and are protected in Petra. satan launches an effort to track down the Jewish people, but God's protection overcomes his efforts. "And the serpent poured water like a river out of his mouth after the woman, so that he might cause her to be swept away with the flood" (Rev. 12:15). In context it appears that satan's pouring out water like a river from his mouth after the woman could be metaphor for military pursuit. He sends out his armies to search for the Jewish people who are in hiding. The intent of his pursuit is to destroy the Jews as stated in the figure of speech "so that he might cause her to be swept away with the flood."<br />In spite of satan's great efforts God hides and protects his people. "And the earth helped the woman, and the earth opened its mouth and drank up the river which the dragon poured out of his mouth" (Rev. 12:16). God uses the rugged and mountainous terrain of the wilderness to counteract satan's efforts at destroying the Jewish Remnant. Satan gives up his search and in his anger goes after other Jewish believers, which could likely the 144,000 Jewish witnesses (Rev. 7:1-8; 14:1-3) who are scattered across the world.<br /> His Word tells us, that it is His People, the Apple of His Eye, the Jewish Remnant, that “keep the Commandments” and also have the Testimony of Jesus. <br />Revelation 12<br />. 17And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.<br />Mrs.Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16424337265401319623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-29011599149741027292017-08-07T19:18:27.628-04:002017-08-07T19:18:27.628-04:00Hey Brother Dave :) We will have to agree to disag...Hey Brother Dave :) We will have to agree to disagree :) What folks are doing, is taking the first Verse of Revelation 12 and trying to make it something it simply is not. In context of the entire Chapter, it is very clear what God is speaking of, and it is not a "sign". Why do these folks always ignore the context, and the other Verses? <br /> God is giving a historical account of His People, the brief linage, and what is to come for the Jewish Believers of the Tribulation, it has nothing to do with the Rapture nor the Church. It is all about Israel, His People, Jewish Believers of the Tribulation. The "signs" Jesus spoke of in Matthew 24 were directed to the Jewish Believers of the Tribulation. We are not in the Tribulation. :) Luke 21, again, is speaking of the Coming of the Lord, the Tribulation, not the Rapture. The Tribulation & the Rapture, will not occur at the same time. :) <br />Lets see what comes after Rev 12:1 :)<br />Verse 1 - John saw “a great sign.” In John’s writings, a “sign”3 is a symbol pointing to something else.The fact that this “woman” is spoken of as “a great sign” emphasizes that John is not referring to a literal woman. Some suggest that it is specifically speaking of the Virgin Mary. Others have identified the woman as the church. Yet, the best option is to understand this woman as a symbolic reference to Israel. This is evident for the following reasons: (1) Israel is often identified as a woman in the Old Testament and is more specifically called God’s wife. (2) The image of the sun, moon, and twelve stars most definitely seems to be an allusion to Joseph’s dream in Genesis 37:9-11, where the sun and moon are identified as Joseph’s parents and the 12 stars represent the twelve sons of Jacob (ultimately the 12 tribes)<br />Genesis 37:9<br /> 9And he dreamed yet another dream, and told it his brethren, and said, Behold, I have dreamed a dream more; and, behold, the sun and the moon and the eleven stars made obeisance to me. Mrs.Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16424337265401319623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-40143808207036387902017-08-07T17:32:35.111-04:002017-08-07T17:32:35.111-04:00Amen to that. Same here. Ready to move on from thi...Amen to that. Same here. Ready to move on from this placeScotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00403649419538752058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-77894395656415615662017-08-07T17:22:22.604-04:002017-08-07T17:22:22.604-04:00Amen, Scott. It's okay to disagree on these mi...Amen, Scott. It's okay to disagree on these minor issues. Onto to major issues... Planet X... have you heard of it? Just kidding!! Jesus... the Author and Perfecter of our faith. And I can't wait to get pefected. I'm so tired of this bag of flesh!foretasteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15169961812131189084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-59381998316489914522017-08-07T17:10:03.934-04:002017-08-07T17:10:03.934-04:00So much for the last word lol. But so far everythi...So much for the last word lol. But so far everything reasonable and i like this exchange but lets focus on the big prize and not make it personal. Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00403649419538752058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-26168298475595784642017-08-07T15:48:14.173-04:002017-08-07T15:48:14.173-04:00Hi Mrs.C - The word in the Greek is sémeion. Accor...Hi Mrs.C - The word in the Greek is sémeion. According to Strong's it means a sign, a miracle or an indication. The important thing is that the verse (Rev. 12:1) says: "Now a great sign appeared in heaven..." You can call it a wonder. The fact is that what follows in that passage is playing out in heaven. The word "heaven" there in the Greek is ouranos, which means the visible heavens (the atmosphere, the sky, the starry heavens). <br /><br />Before making any judgements on this I encourage anyone, who is interested, to do some honest research into this sign and the wonder of it playing out in the sky this September. It is fascinating. That is what I believe anyway. John wrote down what he saw with this sign, just as he wrote down what he saw with every other detail in Revelation.<br /><br />This no doubt has unfortunately become a bone of contention within the preTrib watching Body. Some have become dogmatic in saying that this date must be the rapture, but most, including myself, are saying that it's sign to watch. Jesus told us to watch for the signs of the end days. I believe this is strong one and it "just happens" to be playing out on none other than the Feast of Trumpets. <br /><br />“And there shall be signs in the sun, and in the moon, and in the stars; and upon the earth distress of nations…” <br />“And when these things begin to come to pass, then look up, and lift up your heads; for your redemption draweth night.” —Luke 21:25,28<br /><br />But, bottom line is, and this I think we can all agree on, JESUS IS COMING VERY SOON! There are plenty of other signs screaming at us, telling us so. Maranatha!!foretasteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15169961812131189084noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-77991999279060536052017-08-07T14:42:38.600-04:002017-08-07T14:42:38.600-04:00That was my understanding but its been many years ...That was my understanding but its been many years since ive studied Rev 12. Ill give you the last word on thisScotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00403649419538752058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-84303255307171539682017-08-07T14:13:17.385-04:002017-08-07T14:13:17.385-04:00Have to respectfully disagree with you Brother Dav...Have to respectfully disagree with you Brother Dave :) Revelation 12 has nothing to do with a "sign" at all :) <br />Revelation 12:1 It begins by stating "a great sign appeared in heaven” We have the KJV, referring to a “great wonder in Heaven”, and the NKJV referring to a “great sign appeared in Heaven”. So we have the difference of whether it is a “sign” or “wonder”, either way God does not say that it is something the whole world will see, or He would say that, but rather it is John continuing to describe what he sees. John saw a “door open” in Heaven for example. <br /><br />Revelation 12:1 KJV<br /> 1And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars: <br />Revelation 12:1 (NKJV)<br /> 1 Now a great sign appeared in heaven:<br /><br />Revelation 12:2 The “woman” is in “Heaven” just as he says this vision is that he sees. This has nothing to do with a constellation, or astrology , but everything to do with Israel.<br /> Revelation 12:2<br /> 1And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:<br /><br />It as a reference to Israel in the past, not the future. Genisis 37:9 The sun refers to Jacob, the moon Rachel, Jacob's wife and the 12 stars the sons of Jacob and the 12 tribes of Israel (Jacob). The “sun”, “moon”, and “eleven stars” all bowed to Joseph. Jacob God renamed Israel. that the biblical symbolism of Genesis 37:9-11 clearly refers to Israel.Mrs.Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16424337265401319623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-44239157267940929292017-08-07T13:48:37.982-04:002017-08-07T13:48:37.982-04:00Lets dont get distracted in these deep weeds. Imo ...Lets dont get distracted in these deep weeds. Imo we really are getting very very very close to the hour and imo should be focused onScotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00403649419538752058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-90382156695160281512017-08-07T13:43:20.820-04:002017-08-07T13:43:20.820-04:00I noticed that and agree it wasa little strong. In...I noticed that and agree it wasa little strong. In the past i may have not posted this but because of the closeness of the hour i plan on posting more commentsry than usual. Havibg said that, i can see where hes coming from. There have been some well known people in the past who fixated on a date (1988 comes to mind) which created a lot of hype only to result in nothing. Such acts have turned a lot off on prophecy and a lot of skeptics. Its really hurt our cause a LOT. So i can see where that passion comes fromScotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00403649419538752058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-78963343803082109712017-08-07T13:43:02.135-04:002017-08-07T13:43:02.135-04:00Oh boy...there's gonna be some long responses ...Oh boy...there's gonna be some long responses from little ole me on both the article and the Rev 12...lol Mrs.Chttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16424337265401319623noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-75954451596876987702017-08-07T12:23:38.203-04:002017-08-07T12:23:38.203-04:00I found this article to be quite condescending. A...I found this article to be quite condescending. After reading the sentence that started "we loathe those who set hard, absolute dates for The Rapture or 2nd Coming" I was turned off. What a way to speak about fellow believers. He then goes on to say "If this were truly a sign from God, it's doubtful He would hide it in a constellation from 99.99999% of the world." Yet, he goes on to say that the American eclipse is a great sign! Most of the world can't see that either! You can't have it both ways. He seems a bit confused.Iriosalhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04866226765250160255noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-49876472295013839512017-08-07T09:53:03.396-04:002017-08-07T09:53:03.396-04:00For years I've thought that Feast of Trumpets ...For years I've thought that Feast of Trumpets fits perfectly with the time of the rapture. The Jewish alternate names and symbolism for this moedim are amazing...<br /><br />- The Day and Hour No Man Knows<br />- The Day of Concealment<br />- The Hidden Day<br />- Day of Blowing of Trumpets<br />- Day of the Last Trump<br />- Day of Awakening Blast<br />- Day of Jacob’s Trouble<br />- The Opening of the Gates, Books, etc<br />- The Day of KING’s Coronation (Messiah)<br />- The Wedding of the Messiah<br /><br />If that weren't enough we do see so much now converging and culminating. And more understanding is being revealed to us such as RFID technology moving forward for the Mark of the Beast, prophetic wars lining up with all the players in play, and even this so-called Revelation 12 sign.<br /><br />I do believe this sign is genuine, irrefutable and one for which to take note. Those that have truly researched and promote this are NOT saying this September 22-24 is in fact the time of the rapture, but it is in fact a sign to watch as these stars, planets, sun, moon and constellations are truly and uniquely aligning as per Revelation 12:1-2 in the sky at this time. To me it is icing on the prophetic cake. It's like Jesus is shouting, "I AM coming so very soon. Watch! Look up!"<br /><br />If anyone would like more information on this sign I encourage you to check out unsealed.org and rev12daily.blogspot.com<br /><br />Regardless of what one thinks about this sign, we can still be encouraged and excited that our time here is shorter than it's ever been. We're going Home soon. I want to keep "occupying until" the best I can with all of God's grace and keep praying for lost loved ones to come to know our Jesus.foretasteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15169961812131189084noreply@blogger.com