That didn't take long: following the worst Russian airplane disaster in history, the question everyone was asking is who is responsible. Moments ago we may have gotten the answer.
A militant group affiliated to Islamic State in Egypt claimed responsibility for the downing of a Russian passenger plane that crashed in Egypt's Sinai peninsula on Saturday, the group said in a statement circulated by supporters on Twitter.
Below is the full statement from a group alleging to speak on behalf of Islamic State, posted on their affiliate site, translated by the Guardian's Jahd Khalil. It offers no evidence that the group brought down the plane, apart from their word.
Breaking: Downing of Russian airplane, killing of more than 220 Russian crusaders on board.
Soldiers of the Caliphate were able to bring down a Russian plane above Sinai Province with at least 220 Russian crusaders aboard.
They were all killed, praise be to God. O Russians, you and your allies take note that you are not safe in Muslims lands or their skies.
The killing of dozens daily in Syria with bombs from your planes will bring woe to you. Just as you are killing others, you too will be killed, God willing.
An analyst with the Center for American Progress, Mokhtar Awad, told the Guardian that the Islamic State’s claim of responsibility "is quite vague.
“It doesn’t state how they were able to ‘down’ the plane allegedly. Even the most sophisticated of portable surface-to-air missiles cannot reach that high an altitude and are only a threat during periods of take-off or landing, but the plane had already climbed to its target altitude (from what we know thus far) when it began to likely experience technical failures.
The local affiliate, Wilayat Sinai, has been under some pressure over the past few months and may have jumped the gun on taking credit. Although there isn’t a precedent for such a spectacular lie about something they claim to have done, Islamic State itself has recently been embellishing more and more. For instance it claimed that the recent prison raid by Kurdish and US special forces were a total failure, when in fact video evidence surfaced showed them freeing the hostages. So this may be an instance of the rooster taking credit for the dawn.”
Of course, it could simply have been a bomb planted on the plane and set to explade after 20 minutes of flight time.
However, to corroborate their claim, ISIS has allegedly released this shocking video showing what appears to be a mid-air bomb explosion.
Whether or not the video is real or staged like many of ISIS' previous "made in Hollywood" productions, is currently unknown.
Of course, is the same ISIS which a recently leaked CIA report revealed as being created by the CIA as a "tool" to overthrow Syria's Assad.
In other words, a proxy organization of US "shadow government destabilizing operations", trained in U.S. ally Turkey, and openly funded by both U.S. allies Saudi Arabia and Qatar, just took down a Russian plane.
The question now is did ISIS use a US-made surface-to-air missile to start what may be a very unpleasant war.
Also, does Russia get a carte blanche to begin attacks on ISIS in Egypt now, the same Egypt which recently "purchased" the two Mistral ships made by France, which were meant to be bought by Russia in a deal that was scrapped in the last minute due to NATO intervention?
One thing is clear: if the Russian population had any qualms about continuing the campaign in Syria, they were just eliminated in perpetuity.
Amaq agency for ISIS claimed that ISIS downed the Russian airliner and produced two videos that show footage of a downed civilian aircraft:
Officials say that the plane crashed due to technical difficulty and here ISIS says they downed the civilian jet killing all on board.
So which source do we believe in this case: the media or ISIS? Well, Fox news reveals that the official news is mired in contradictions:
Ayman al-Muqadem, an Egyptian official with the government’s Aviation Incidents Committee, said the plane’s pilot, before losing contact, had radioed that the aircraft was experiencing technical problems and that he intended to try and land at the nearest airport. The aircraft crashed at a site near the el-Arish airport, he said.
Fox then says: “It was not immediately possible to independently confirm that technical problems caused the plane to crash.” And then a complete contradiction:
Earlier, al-Muqadem told local media that the plane had briefly lost contact but was safely in Turkish airspace.
The reported news is mired with contradictions and there is no confirmation of a technical difficulty and we know that it did not reach “Turkish airspace”. So these reports cannot be confirmed or be completely trusted at this point until the investigations are complete.
Then we have Russia’s transport minister claiming that MANPAD stinger missiles are not within range to bring down an airliner that was flying at 31000 feet since MANPADS have maximum reach of 15000 feet.
However, the surprise comes when an SA-8 GECKO was used to down a cargo plane around Damascus by Syrian rebels last year which is highly mobile and has the range of 40,000 feet, well within distance of the reported height (36,000 ft). One example can be seen here:
Then we have the eyewitness account which do seem to corroborate the ISIS reported footage. A website called Flightradar24, which tracks air traffic around the globe, said the plane had been descending at a rate of 6,000 feet per minute just before it disappeared from radar. Eyewitnesses reported one engine on fire as it went down, according to a report in Masry Al-Youm, an Egyptian newspaper.
Whether or not the videos are real or staged productions is currently unknown but heat seeking missiles usually hit one engine which leaves only 30% chance of landing safely. The footage can be legitimate and ISIS does infest the Sinai which makes their report plausible, especially when we see the official reporting contradictory including the claims that terrorists only have simple low range stingers is no longer the case as evidence reveals.
THERE IS ONLY ONE SOLUTION TO THIS BUT I DOUBT IT WILL HAPPEN >>>>
EGYPT NEEDS TO CLEAR ALL THEIR PEOPLE OUT OF THE SINAI AND
ALLOW RUSSIA TO NUKE ISIL.
ISIL IS EVIL. THEY SAY THEY ARE SERVING GOD ?? THEY ARE SERVING A
DRAGON.....THAT IS VERY CLEAR.
ONE TACTICAL NUKE ON A CRUISE MISSILE WOULD BE THE END OF ISIL
IN SINAI.............PERIOD !!
Wait just a cotton picking minute here. I need a program. Anybody got an official program?
OK....9/11 happened when AK flew airplanes into the twin towers. We went to war against AK in the country of Afgan. Now we're still fighting in Afgan except the enemy is the Taliban...not AK. When did we switch enemies? Now we're training and supplying AK in Syria and Libya. How did that happen? Did we switch sides or did they? What's the color of their jersey?
We decided Libya needed a new leader and presto....country destabilized, AK in strong position, arms running, dead Ambassador, and then we decide Syria needs a new leader. After 4 years, just about completed as we privately supply ISIS and publically go to war with them. Then Russia decides to help us fight our enemy, ISIS and AK....and we're screaming & squirming like a stuck pig.
Now, our enemy (ISIS/AK) that we're supplying claims credit for taking down a Russian aircraft over a country we're again publically allies with and privately stabbing in the back (Egypt) while they photograph the explosion and crash and the most likely place they could have gotten a anti aircraft missile capable of that altitude is from us.
Did I take a wrong turn somewhere in this narrative? Are these trick mirrors? It is halloween for the secular world.....and boy is this crowd secular.
Exactly....And I'm wondering how many hours go by before we enter the equation (in the media) - but the connection is obvious and I wonder where they got the necessary equipment to do this.
I don't think this will be pretty. If we in ANY way contributed to this, its gonna get ugly...Maybe not immediately and maybe not in an obvious way, but if Russia thinks we are behind this in any way, there will be a significant price to pay.
I'm not convinced ISIS was capable of this, but maybe they were. Gonna be ugly either way.
But the real story to watch is Erdogan in Turkey on Election Day!
but was is the GECKO SA 8 ?? is that Russian made ??
someone please tell me, would SA be USA made ?? or Russian ??
I could be wrong but i highly doubt that PUTIN will let this slide.
He may not nuke ISIS but he is NO coward and he WILL strike back.
I do not think WS bulls were expecting this to happen.
we will see what happens next.
one more thing i need to ask ?? did the USA really create ISIS ??
why would they do such a thing ??
so they can build that silly pipeline thru Syria ??
(and ASSAD does not want that I presume ??)
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