Saturday, April 17, 2021

Updates From Ukraine: NATO Or Nuclear Weapons


Ukrainian Envoy: NATO Or Nuclear Weapons




On Thursday Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky seconded a statement by Georgian President Salome Zourabichvili that "it is time for concrete proposals for Ukraine and Georgia to obtain a NATO MAP and a plan to join the EU." The two countries have been paired as partners for future NATO membership, with both being promised membership in the global military bloc at the NATO summit in Bucharest, Romania in 2008.


Ukraine’s ambassador to Germany, Andriy Melnyk, seconded Zelensky’s demand that NATO admit Ukraine as a full member, stating that only that move would prevent a Russian invasion: "The only possibility for this [to prevent alleged invasion plans] is for Ukraine to finally become a NATO member."

He also claimed that had his country been in NATO in 2014 the secession of Donetsk, Lugansk and Crimea would not have occurred; neither would the now seven-year was in the Donbass. He neglected to state whether the U.S.-engineered uprising and overthrow of an internationally-recognized government would also have occurred. Most likely not, as the populations of NATO nations are not allowed to elect, or if elect, keep any government Washington and Brussels view with disapprobation.

The envoy then made this provocative statement:

"Ukraine has no other choice: either we are part of an alliance such as NATO and are doing our part to make this Europe stronger, or we have the only option – to arm by ourselves, and maybe think about nuclear status again. How else can we guarantee our defense?"

He also claimed there were 90,000 Russian military personnel deployed to the Donbass border and to Crimea; in his words, "We are dealing with the largest troop movement in Russia since the Second World War." Which is arrant nonsense.

When the Soviet Union was dissolved in 1991 a third of total Soviet nuclear weapons were in Ukraine; with 1,700 warheads in the country it had the third largest nuclear arsenal in the world after the US and Russia.

In 1994 Ukraine joined the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons as a non-nuclear-weapon nation. It’s that decision the above-cited ambassador suggested be reversed. In fairness, this isn’t the first time the question of Ukraine developing its own nuclear weapons capacity has been broached.

Over the past twenty years NATO-trained military leaders have raised the issue. But never before, and never during a crisis remotely comparable to the present one, has the issue been phrased so brutally: either place Ukraine under NATO Article 5 mutual military assistance status – and NATO acknowledges itself a nuclear alliance – or Ukraine will reassert itself as a nuclear power.

The shelling of the Donbass will be mild in comparison to what an armed conflict between a nuclear Ukraine and nuclear Russia would portend.


Slide To War Continues; Diplomats EXPELLED by Multiple Countries; Coup Plot Foiled in Belarus (US INVOLVEMENT)

H Turner



The slide to WAR is accelerating. Diplomats are being EXPELLED from countries. US Embassy CONFIRMS US Troops are now in Ukraine and Russian Intelligence shows Turkish Troops arrived too.

On Thursday, a group of military "instructors" from the United States arrived at the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (AFU) located in the Donbass, said the official representative of the defense department of the Luhansk People's Republic. 

Those "instructors" were twelve US Special Forces operators.   The US may be calling them "instructors" but typically, men like these go into a region to "soften-up" targets before the main US body of forces arrives and engages.

On Friday, The United States expelled 10 Russian Diplomats.   The same day, Poland Expelled 3 Russian Diplomats.

In response, Russia expelled 10 American Diplomats and 3 Polish Diplomats.  A staffer in the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs even went so far as to suggest to the American Ambassador that he "leave Moscow and return to the US for consultations."

Observers within several foreign ministries described the situation this way: "Russia-US diplomatic contacts are "dead."  They went on to say "the expulsion of 10 Russian from America and the follow-up expulsion of 10 Americans from Russia means  there will be no meeting with Biden because it is now clear there is nothing left to talk about."

Diplomats throughout the United Nations are almost apoplectic over the turn of events; many of them commenting they have not, in their entire careers, seen the world's two Superpowers intentionally halt Diplomacy with each other. 

On Saturday, the Czech Republic announced it was Expelling 18 Russian Diplomats, following discovery that #GRU Unit 29155, responsible for poisonings in #Europe, were also behind the explosions at Czech ammunition factories in 2014.

The Russian Foreign Ministry replied "By expelling 18 Russian diplomats Czech Republic has apparently decided to close its embassy in Moscow."

Ukraine says that the senior diplomat of the Russia Embassy in Kyiv must leave Ukraine within 72 hours, starting from April 19.

Russia responded "The Consul of the Consulate General of Ukraine in St. Petersburg must leave the Russian Federation by April 22."

(Hal Turner Remark: WHOA!!!  First the Americans, then the Russians, then the Poles, next the Czechs and finally Ukraine.  The world hasn't seen Diplomatic disintegration on this scale since the 1950's.)


3 German Warships heading towards east the same time and left German waters from Kiel and now near Lithuania, Sweden, and Kaliningrad. 

-FGS Wilhelm (Military ops) 

-FGS Bad Bevensen 

-FGS Fulda

Meanwhile, back in Russia, Long-range radar detection and guidance aircraft were deployed to Rostov, near Ukraine.


More than 20 Russian Navy ships gathered in the Black Sea.

”Representatives” of 3 fleets (Caspian, Northern, Baltic), in cooperation with the forces of the Black Sea Fleet, will take part in offset naval exercises.

Turkish troops transport plane has landed in Kiev, Ukraine; troops deplaned.

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There’s way too much at stake now, more then just egos. 

The globalist narrative is collapsing. More and more people are resisting.

The economy is near collapse.

The Democrats won’t allow Russia's Nord Stream 2 pipeline to happen. 

Russia can’t allow NATO to destroy their pipelines and allow NATO to sit right on the border with Russia.

That border has always been a red line.  
If Putin blinks or wimps-out, he’s finished. 

This is why they are pushing Putin's back against the wall, they want a war or to get rid of Putin and install a Pro-NWO regime in Moscow. 

They can’t do the great reset with Russia or the US still existing.

That's exactly why I think conflict is guaranteed. Everybody wants completely different things and nobody is moving at all on any of them.   Everyone's position is now set in stone.

Hell, the announcement after the meeting yesterday amounted to telling Russia "we aren't negotiating, pull back your troops or face the consequences." 

Russia gave them the finger in response. 

It's very, very tense today and it's been that way since then.

There are *** RUMORS *** Putin is going to recognize Donetsk and Lugansk Republic as political entities and announce annexation of that part of Ukraine.

 Meanwhile, just about the only words anyone is hearing from politicos on this matter is "Russian aggression."  One politician even went so far as to claim Russia is trying to reform the Soviet Union and takeover the world! 
 
The US has over 800 bases outside its borders, staffed by over 500,000 civilian and military personnel. 

Russia has about 14 bases outside its borders.



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