tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post5814861161594592887..comments2024-03-29T05:09:04.100-04:00Comments on PROPHECY UPDATE: In The News:Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger100125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-40629821282493372862012-07-13T15:04:17.490-04:002012-07-13T15:04:17.490-04:00(Right On, Scott. Found this little item on net. E...(Right On, Scott. Found this little item on net. Enjoy. Ted)<br /><br />David Jeremiah Charged with Stealing !<br /><br /> This isn't a joke or malicious gossip! To see the shocking details, Google "Plagiarism Galore in a David Jeremiah Book - June 22, 2012." If you want to see which other well-known evangelical leaders are guilty of the same crime, Google "Pretrib Rapture Dishonesty" and "Deceiving and Being Deceived" - both by journalist/historian Dave MacPherson.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-66429708177563993922012-04-25T03:36:39.669-04:002012-04-25T03:36:39.669-04:00I gathered here a number of visual materials (info...I gathered here a number of visual materials (infographics and video animation) of Iranian nuclear weapon preparations that might interest you. I would like to know your opinion on the issue. When you use it for publication, just let me know.<br />http://bit.ly/Jyx5h9IRAN 24/07 NEWShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03250805498824044001noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-25342225634625498382012-04-23T04:42:47.310-04:002012-04-23T04:42:47.310-04:00dave,
the question still remain, what evil or sin,...dave,<br />the question still remain, what evil or sin, will the HS allow for the lawless one to appear. it seems to me that all of the evil/sins are just around us. murder,adultery,blasphemy,stealing etc...<br /><br />the last anonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-23426558677041687542012-04-22T22:54:58.403-04:002012-04-22T22:54:58.403-04:00The ten commandments being the sum of the old cove...The ten commandments being the sum of the old covenant are already broken. The deed is done, capoot.<br /><br />We are now in obligation to the Spirit, to live by Him not to find our righteousness in keeping laws (as ideal and wonderful as they are in a world full of humans who would be capable of such obedience)but being changed everyday into the likeness of Christ and overcoming our sinful flesh.<br /><br />Faith from start to Finnish, not sabbath keeping, as joyful an experience it may be.<br /><br />DaveDave Down Undernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-50194685129641180842012-04-22T16:38:24.010-04:002012-04-22T16:38:24.010-04:00the sin against the Holy Spirit..."the unpard...the sin against the Holy Spirit..."the unpardonable sin"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-14766137821134632742012-04-22T04:18:47.546-04:002012-04-22T04:18:47.546-04:00what sin is more than the laws of the 10 commandme...what sin is more than the laws of the 10 commandments?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-38209446979161667472012-04-22T00:09:05.927-04:002012-04-22T00:09:05.927-04:00Anon as far as evil goes, we ain't seen nothin...Anon as far as evil goes, we ain't seen nothin yet. You wait till AC comes to power then you'll see some honorific sins.Dave Down Undernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-73669491990706099672012-04-21T09:20:37.574-04:002012-04-21T09:20:37.574-04:00almond
i see where you are coming now.
this is how...almond<br />i see where you are coming now.<br />this is how i see it,<br />can i say " i will work and continue to work for 8 hrs", although i say "CONTINUE" to work for 8 hrs, what i mean is that 8hrs is the whole duration i will work.<br />thats the thing i think.<br />Also rev 13 describes from rise of the beast to power, duration of his reign, his work and the work of his predecessor the false prophet while he is still in power.<br />Having a crown to conquer is having power, and to conquer means probabaly "war" at the beginning of 7 years.<br />that is why when you put them together he stay in power for 84 months.<br />is it possible that instead 42 months + 1260days, they run parallel with an overlap having the 42months reign of the beast at the very end, coz they will be cast alive in lake of fire alive.<br />We are living in this world full of evil and yet the church is here, what do you mean by the HS will stand aside to let evil do his work, by the looks of it, evil is all around us.<br />thank you for your help and be blessed.<br /><br />last anonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-92147351302935415812012-04-21T08:00:13.120-04:002012-04-21T08:00:13.120-04:00“hope you can still give further clarity”
Hi last...“hope you can still give further clarity”<br /><br />Hi last anon<br /><br />You aren’t wrong about the 42 months, but they are a CONTINUATION of the previous 1260 days which began when Antic was given a Crown to conquer with. Those 42 months he is empowered by the dragon after Antic is revived. Satan is enraged when he is cast down to earth just before the middle of the seven..<br />Yes indeed, the Holy Spirit will still be present on earth, His work of restraining evil is for the sake of the Church, it is after he has finished His work as Comforter and ‘earnest’ or engagement ring to the Church. He hands her over to the bridegroom Jesus who takes her to the Fathers house where their works are judged by Christ and the marriage takes place (not the feast). Without Him, no one could be saved again. Also the Holy Spirit is God, He is omnipresent so He doesn’t go away anywhere, He just stands aside and allows evil to do its full work of judgment with the Church safe in heaven. Yes He empowers the two witnesses and He seals the 144k to minister as well as aiding Elijah who will come before the Day of the Lord begins for the judgments through the seven. <br /><br />I need to stop now, as I am fully occupied for the next few days. As soon as I can I will try to clarify with Scripture about the FUTURE desolation of the SANCTUARY, and the escape of Jerusalem Jews …….. Maybe there are others willing to help you understand in the meantime – Scott maybe? <br /><br />Every blessing to you. God willing I shall be back. <br /><br />almondAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-77588993093567343032012-04-21T07:09:34.897-04:002012-04-21T07:09:34.897-04:00almond,
thanks for that exhausting clarification v...almond,<br />thanks for that exhausting clarification very appreciated.<br />you see that is why i ask, you said" The antichrist(beast) power and authority begin at the start of 7years" contradict s the 42 months in power of the beast.<br />The two witness were they not empowered by the Holy spirit, coz they cannot do those wonderful miracles without the Holy spirit, just a thought, so the holy spirit is still here during the 1260 days of the witness. which again the "lawless one" cannot be revealed if the HS is still present.<br />Also, the desolation spoken of daniel, did it not happen when the roman desacrated the temple (history) that causes the desolation of israel for a long time from 70 Ad - 1948. since Mat 24 talks of destruction of temple, gathering of elect, and jesus returns <br />thanks again, hope you can still give further clarity.<br /><br />last anonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-31242198436233264872012-04-21T03:32:46.424-04:002012-04-21T03:32:46.424-04:00Continued
Another, 2nd beast is seen coming up ou...Continued<br /><br />Another, 2nd beast is seen coming up out of the earth like a lamb but with the voice of the dragon Rev.13 verses 11 – 15, This is the False Prophet who completes the diabolical trinity. The Devil = the Father, the Antic = the Son, the False Prophet = the Holy Spirit.<br />Coming out of the earth (not heaven) so the False Prophet is an earthdweller, human not Divine. He will be like a lamb and religious, but his speech is the word of the Dragon showing his evil nature. So the 2nd beast in this context is elsewhere called the False Prophet Rev16 verse13, Rev 19 verse 20, Rev 20 verse10.<br />Just as the Holy Spirit has equal authority with the Son, so the counterfeit HS will have equal authority with counterfeit son. He will be able to perform counterfeit lying signs & wonders for deception. He teaches the power of the Antic, make an image of the Antic beast and the FP will give ‘life’ to the image. Those who don’t fall down and worship the image of the beast. Rev 13 verse 16 – 18 Just as the Holy Spirit seals us into Christ, the False Prophet gives a counterfeit seal on the forehead or right hand which is called the number of the beast, the number of his name, the number of a man the number is 666.<br />Again, that’s only the bare bones of a very big subject. Primarily I have wanted to show how the Antic’s power and authority begins at the start of the 7 years (at least) which is his revealing after the restrainer (Holy Spirit) stops restraining evil. Antic is GIVEN this authority by God to start off God’s judgment of Israel in order to bring her back to Him and to judge the gentile earthdwellers.Rev 3verse 10. <br /><br />The Church are not earthdwellers, her citizenship is in heaven. :)<br />almondAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-49289743796495216532012-04-21T03:29:59.167-04:002012-04-21T03:29:59.167-04:00“can you please clarify who is the beast and the f...“can you please clarify who is the beast and the false prophet between the two(too many antic)?(roman antic vs antic beast)<br />and who is this conqueror no reference to the beast here or you just assumed?”<br /><br />Hi last anon<br /><br />SO many beasts !!! :)<br /> <br /> No, not assumed, its called interpreting Scripture with Scripture. The antic begins his work when Jesus opens the first Seal in Rev 6.verse 1,2. The Conqueror GIVEN the crown IS the Antichrist. This is why he has the power & authority to confirm the covenant with Israel for seven years in Dan 9 verses 25,27 which is the REVEALING of the man of sin in 2 Thess 2. He is the prince that shall come, as his people the Romans are the ones who burned Jerusalem and the Temple in AD 70. He is the prince of the Roman Empire, the 4th beast iron Rome, the little horn that comes out of the 10 horns. Nothing can begin until Jesus, as the only one who can break the seals, does so. The start of the 7 year trib is when Jesus, as our nearest kinsman, begins to take back the authority over the earth from Satan, the dragon, that old serpent who tricked Adam out of that right when they disobeyed Gods rule.<br /> <br />The symbols in the book of Revelation are largely explained by the Old Testament. As when Jesus said in Matt 24 “When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by DANIEL THE PROPHET, stand in the holy place, WHOSO READETH, LET HIM UNDERSTAND Jesus is quoting from the prophet Dan 9 verse 27<br />Dans 4 Beasts of chapter 7 shows Gods view of the hidden hearts of the four world empires God raises up in Dan chapter 2 of the great image.<br /> <br />Gold head is Babylon Empire & the 1st beast like a lion. <br />Silver chest & arms is Medes&Persians Empire & the 2nd beast like a lumbering bear.<br />Bronze belly & thighs is Greek Empire & the 3rd beast like swift leopard. <br />Iron legs & feet mix of iron & clay is Roman Empire & 4th beast really terrible with a mix of the previous 3 beasts but different.<br /><br />The Antic comes out of the final Iron Roman Empire of the 4th beast.<br />This 4th Iron Roman beast has the body like a leopard, (Greece). The feet & iron claws like a bear (Medes&persians), the fierce lion mouth of Babylon. So although the first 3 beasts no longer have dominion, their lives and powers are prolonged through the 4th Beast.<br /><br />Antic comes out of this terrible mix but diverse 4th beast of iron Rome. Today we are at the feet of iron & clay that will not adhere together. The 5th stage of the Roman Empire yet to come, are the 10 toes of the image which are also the 10 horns on this 4th beast. This beast has 7 heads ( Rev 13). The 7th head is the antichrist stage! This 7th head is struck then healed as a counterfeit of Jesus death & resurrection. Satan is to be worshiped thru his son, the Antic just as the heavenly Father is worshiped thru His Son the Lord Jesus Christ. The Antic will finally have political rule over all the earth and also religious rule over all the earth<br /><br />more to follow.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-60125151208170876532012-04-20T15:50:11.333-04:002012-04-20T15:50:11.333-04:00almond,
thank you, slowly making progress. Confuse...almond,<br />thank you, slowly making progress. Confused though.<br />can you please clarify who is the beast and the false prophet between the two(too many antic)?(roman antic vs antic beast)<br />and who is this conqueror no reference to the beast here or you just assumed?<br />thanks<br />last anonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-59220450575338941582012-04-20T15:18:31.999-04:002012-04-20T15:18:31.999-04:00Hi last anon
“anyway there is no reference of the ...Hi last anon<br />“anyway there is no reference of the beast before that”<br /><br />Rev 6:1 is about the antic beast.<br /><br />And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see. And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a CROWN was given unto him: and he went forth CONQUERING, and to CONQUER. (That’s power & authority from start of seven trib to end of seven trib but worse from the middle of the trib.<br /><br />Dan9verse 26 &27 ------- and the people of the prince that shall come(Roman antic) shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined. And he (antic beast) shall CONFIRM THE COVENANT (start) with many for ONE WEEK: and in the MIDST of the WEEK he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the CONSUMATION, and that determined shall be poured upon the desolate.<br /><br />Daniel here speaks of the beast from the start of the seven years (confirming covenant) up to the MIDST and even to the END of the seven years.<br />Clearly the ruling activity of the Antic beast IS mentioned in both Revelation & Daniel even 2Thess2.<br /><br />The bottomless pit or Abyss is prison for demons to wait until judgment. Its part of Hades where the unsaved dead wait. Luke 8 verse 31, 2 Peter 2 verse 4 & Jude 1 verse 6. Romans 10 verse 7 So the spirit of antic is released from prison for a season to get back to work and seal his fate in worse atrocities. It’s a Satanic work allowed by God. Its not like resurrection from death to eternal life<br /><br />The lake of fire and brimstone is where FP and Antic are thrown ALIVE. So is the devil, and death and hell and finally all those not written in the book of life. Rev 19 verse 20. Rev 20 verse 10 & 14 & 20. Yes,Satan is held in the Abyss during the 1k and then released, again only for a season. Theres no getting out of the lake of fire, that’s for eternity and made specially for the devil and his fallen angels. People end up going there because they refuse to believe in Jesus to save them from eternal death and give them free eternal life for faith in Him by Gods grace.<br /><br />Hope this helps as I don’t have that much time to do this. Hope Scott is ok with this?<br /><br />almondAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-61005470401753874542012-04-20T06:18:21.000-04:002012-04-20T06:18:21.000-04:00almond,
does it says that the beast has a deadly w...almond,<br />does it says that the beast has a deadly wound and healed (and i think with modern tech, you can have a deadly wound and can be healed). not killed and lived.<br />unlike the two witnesses it is said that they were killed and were resurrected.<br />since the beast will ascend out of the bottomless pit, do you not think that his first appearance with power would be when the angel open up the bottomless pit as you reference the fifth trumpet.( if the angel has the key i think it is locked, and i think satan will be held there as well for a thousand years)<br />anyway there is no reference of the beast before that.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-34394704802879986372012-04-19T18:00:19.827-04:002012-04-19T18:00:19.827-04:00......so much so I've decided to I'll map .........so much so I've decided to I'll map the info you've shared out in my Bible and see how it all adds up. Thanks again Almond.<br /><br /> There's another thing I'm discovering about prophecy. Sometimes The building blocks of prophecy look like they don't fall into place or don't belong in the appropriate positions IAW my minds, but I'm realizing there are somethings I've got to just accept by faith. Maybe the reason I'm not a pretribber like I was, when I was first saved, is because I'm reading Gods Word with my head and not through the eyes of the Spirit.<br /><br />Have a great day<br />DaveDave Down Undernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-58250291840780063922012-04-19T17:19:22.393-04:002012-04-19T17:19:22.393-04:00G'day Almond. I appreciate your work and there...G'day Almond. I appreciate your work and theres no need to be afraid, we won't bite.<br /><br />You've put a lot of thought and effort into your work and I appreciate the insights you've shared. <br /><br />Thankyou<br />DaveDave Down Undernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-26281748026937666522012-04-19T12:08:05.205-04:002012-04-19T12:08:05.205-04:00Last Anonymous (and Dave to?)
Im nervous about pos...Last Anonymous (and Dave to?)<br />Im nervous about posting this in case its seen as offensive; for what its worth, I got what you were asking and why, but must keep this as short as I can………..<br /><br />The Rapture of the Church is BEFORE the Seven years start!!!!!!! <br /><br />The intervals in Rev make events hard to follow.<br /><br />Rev 13:2Now the beast which I saw was like a leopard, his feet were like the feet of a bear, and his mouth like the mouth of a lion. The dragon gave him his power, his throne, and great authority.<br />3. And I saw one of his heads as if it had been mortally wounded, and his deadly wound was healed. And all the world marveled and followed the beast.<br />4 So they worshiped the dragon who gave authority to the beast; and they worshiped the beast, saying, "Who [is] like the beast? Who is able to make war with him?"<br />5.And he was given a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies, and he was given authority to CONTINUE for forty-two months.<br /><br />The beast in verse 2 is Rome made of iron from Daniel 2 verses 7 &19. This is antic the little horn out of the 10 horns. Don’t have time to fill all this in for you……..<br />Verse 3 is one of the heads (left from the 10) is killed is antic.<br />The wound was healed when at the first Woe of the fifth Trumpet Rev 9 verses 1 to 12. Antic is let out of the bottomless pit with billions of demons like locust.<br />People start to worship the dragon (satan) thru the Rome beast (antic)<br />Verse 5 notice the word CONTINUE – for 42 months. All told he is ruling for seven years.<br /><br />Antic is revealed when he confirms the covenant with Israel – as you say, he has to have authority to do that. This starts the seven years, the first 1260 days up to the middle of the trib. This is Daniel 9 verse 27. This is also Revelation 6 when Jesus starts off the seven years by breaking the first seal with white horse & rider is the antic. <br />Also its 2Thess 2 verse 3<br />Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the MAN OF LAWLESSNESS is REVEALED, the son of destruction, is the antic.<br /><br />The 7th Seal holds the first trumpet in the first half of the seven, Rev 8 verse 1 to 13. At the fifth Trumpet which is also the first woe,Rev9 verse 1 to 12 the pit is opened and antic returns to life. At the sixth Trumpet the second woe, the False Proph sets up the image of the beast in the Temple and starts the 666. Antic goes into the sanctuary and defiles it. This is also the end of the 1260 days given to the 2 witnesses. Its in the middle of the week that they are killed by the beast out of the pit – then raised up. Jerusalem Jews escapes into the wilderness……..<br /> All of this is still the middle of the seven years. <br />Back to verse 5 antic is given a further 1260 days (42 months lunar) to CONTINUE his rule, far worse than he was for the first half because he is now possessed by the dragon (satan).<br /><br />In the middle of the week is when the third woe falls, which is the 7th Trumpet. Out of the 7th Trumpet comes the 1st Bowl judgment. Rev 11 verse 15 So all this means the 7 seals and 7 Trumpets are during the first half of the seven years (3 ½ years). The 7 Bowls range from the middle of the seven to the end of the seven. After the 7th bowl is poured out – Jesus returns to earth for the 2nd time. <br />Its easier to see if you look for all that happens in the MIDDLE of the week and work back and forth from there.<br /><br />This is only the roots, and I apologise to Scott if this adds to conflict but I could see what last anon was asking but was misunderstood I feel. Sorry, sorry if you have to delete this, thats okay I get it – I think? <br /><br />AlmondAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-81033456964829379662012-04-19T06:36:55.705-04:002012-04-19T06:36:55.705-04:00Diane, praying for you sister.That Bible verse is ...Diane, praying for you sister.That Bible verse is a good one to keep focused on. Your sister, marymarynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-42652949189909345522012-04-19T06:09:04.815-04:002012-04-19T06:09:04.815-04:00to diane and scott,
thank you for the information ...to diane and scott,<br />thank you for the information (i am sorry to ask who's wife is who, i could have ask whether mrs C is a sister or any other). anyway by the sounds of it, scott is not happy with some "anon".<br />me on the other hand, only ask mrs c, on who will confirm the covenant at the start of tribulations provided that the Word of God allows the beast to have power to continue for 42 months. I hope i can find an answer not enemy.<br />helen did try but i forgot to include the 42 months before she can answer. (Is this so hard to answer, if yes i will just ignore it, till someone gave me a reasonable answer)<br /><br />the last anonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-29138203394767963582012-04-19T03:26:59.677-04:002012-04-19T03:26:59.677-04:00Hello Scott. The person involved is probably/shoul...Hello Scott. The person involved is probably/should be on medication for mental illness.<br /><br />Maybe with that in mind it would enable us all to just ignore the person with their probing questions. At the end of the day all they can do is ask and post. And you are actually in the position of power with the ability to delete their posts. So fear not Scott your in charge here mate, not anon.<br /><br />Bless ya.<br />DaveDave Down Undernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-42336992352743104002012-04-19T02:23:35.141-04:002012-04-19T02:23:35.141-04:00I am not yet recovering, Caver, I still need to ha...I am not yet recovering, Caver, I still need to have surgery and now have another problem. Thanks for asking. <br /><br />"Therefore we do not lose heart. Though outwardly we are wasting away, yet inwardly we are being renewed day by day." 2 Corinthians 4 :15 <br /><br />DianeDianenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-44041977587846681592012-04-18T19:15:44.704-04:002012-04-18T19:15:44.704-04:00Diane, thank you for clarifying the issue of Mrs C...Diane, thank you for clarifying the issue of Mrs C's spouse.<br /><br />How are you recovering and feeling?Caverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04501263352164217716noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-84772786366582299702012-04-18T17:18:10.119-04:002012-04-18T17:18:10.119-04:00I actually have a lot of thoughts on this thread,...I actually have a lot of thoughts on this thread, but I'm still in catch up mode after a trip. I may make a separate post entirely devoted to this comment thread. <br /><br />Also - My wife is not Mrs C! (that would make me Mr.C<br />and he's a lot smarter than me, so we could never be confused! )<br /><br />Anyway, I really don't understand what someone has to gain by intentionally causing strife among Christians and seemingly deriving pleasure from that. Whoever is doing this, as "anon", I think should have some very serious prayer and reflection on what he/she is causing, and why he/she seems to get pleasure from this.<br /><br />My guess is - that the individual enjoys the 'power' of creating a long comment thread that he/she precipitated. Its a form of power and control - but I think the individual should take this to the Lord and see if its consistent with biblical teachings about interacting with fellow Christians. <br /><br />And I will remind Anon that he/she has still (and preictably) never responded to my basic questions regarding the timing of the rapture - nothing tricky or fancy - just some basic questions. <br /><br />The reason for this is, he/she has no answers and therefore refuses to go there. <br /><br />So lets just agree to disagree and leave it at that.<br /><br />We've all heard you anon - and your views.Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00403649419538752058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-43052290088485468422012-04-18T15:21:02.274-04:002012-04-18T15:21:02.274-04:00No, Anon, Mrs C is the wife of Caver. Perhaps the...No, Anon, Mrs C is the wife of Caver. Perhaps the Cavers and Scotts are good friends/associates. I don't know. I know that Scott lives in NC, as do quite a few of the regular bloggers :) DianeDianenoreply@blogger.com