tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post5814305850365098981..comments2024-03-27T19:56:06.973-04:00Comments on PROPHECY UPDATE: News From The WorldUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-83009463872961288742011-06-02T00:50:54.728-04:002011-06-02T00:50:54.728-04:00Scott >>>
As I said before, it will be t...Scott >>><br /><br />As I said before, it will be the EURO that collapses, NOT the dollar.<br /><br />and I am CONVINCED that will be real soon...<br /><br />Stephen in Hawaii !!!!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-79112807858002992802011-06-01T21:41:30.949-04:002011-06-01T21:41:30.949-04:00Oh Sue - I loved that article on the oldest living...Oh Sue - I loved that article on the oldest living person. And this was priceless: "She attributes her life's longevity to a healthy diet which includes eating fruit and a bread roll with her daily morning coffee"...You gotta love that :)Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00403649419538752058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-26215981302430568072011-06-01T21:37:51.079-04:002011-06-01T21:37:51.079-04:00Ally - nice summary ! I like that
Anon - please f...Ally - nice summary ! I like that<br /><br />Anon - please feel free to give us some links to some of those articles if you want to - I'd love to benefit from your work on this. <br /><br />Sue - I want to take a look at that link - thanks for that!Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00403649419538752058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-30028422348037208862011-06-01T19:57:45.977-04:002011-06-01T19:57:45.977-04:00I need someone to support me so i can pray all day...I need someone to support me so i can pray all day as there are so many things to pray a.out now that i cant even fit them all in. whew! maybe this e. coli is one of your indian superbugs,Scott!Or since its having such a crazy dna cesspool my guess is lab created and then selectively placed, by well lets just say "terrorists" perhaps. Codex Alimentus anyone? Japan-very sad. Bibi/Jerusalem-touchdown! Well, we know we passed the 40 year mark a while back. i still consider 1948 as the start. things are lining up so fast, it cant be too much longer! No date setting but the fact of so much conterfit rapture action...hmm, if we are here for Christmas I would be surprised indeed. but i am ready to stay or go as he wishes! -allyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-84647679295606354932011-06-01T19:09:10.860-04:002011-06-01T19:09:10.860-04:00Hello Scott
In the hope of pushing back the ‘gener...Hello Scott<br />In the hope of pushing back the ‘generation’; I Googled Theodor Herzl and found this site with ‘timelines’ that goes back to Abraham. I noted a ‘Wiki’ comment that said ‘Zionism’ went back to 70 C.E. (the destruction of the Temple and Jerusalem in A.D. 70) <br /><br />http://www.zionism-israel.com/zionism_timeline.htm<br /><br />I’m not sure I have proved anything, but it is jolly interesting for all that! The first Zionist Congress was at Basle, Switzerland in 1897 which was 114 years ago, so it depends where one wants to ‘start’as the wave of Russian pogroms catalyzed the FIRST Aliya (wave of immigration to Israel) in 1881 – 1885. = 126-130 years ago.<br /><br />The oldest person of The Guinness World (recorded) holder (still living in May) was born on July 9, 1896, in Carangola, Brazil, Valentim is 48 days older than the previous titleholder, Besse Cooper from Monroe, Ga. Cooper will now hold the title of "Oldest Living North American." There’s a nice photo of the dear old stick.<br /> <br />http://www.lifeslittlemysteries.com/guinness-world-records-crowns-new-oldest-living-person-1699/<br /><br />A bit of tweaking makes it even closer. :D<br />xExpected Imminentlynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-11746616350118914182011-06-01T19:06:32.988-04:002011-06-01T19:06:32.988-04:00Thank you, Scott. I remember you once mentioned t...Thank you, Scott. I remember you once mentioned to me that you weren't necessarily using 1948 as your starting point, that's what caused me to ask. <br /><br />Anonymous, Plague Ecoli??? That sounds TERRIBLE!!! And I'm sure it is! I'll keep Germany in my prayers, too.Alicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03440990812353695096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-63907601550171422462011-06-01T18:49:00.068-04:002011-06-01T18:49:00.068-04:00This particular strain of Ecoli is a mixture of DN...This particular strain of Ecoli is a mixture of DNA's from several Ecoli types plus DNA from the Plague Ecoli according to German microbiolists. Der Spiegel Newspaper is best source for info on this worst case of food poisoning in history. I stayed up all night reading all the articles. They did first blame cucumbers from Spain because 4 did have Ecoli BUT later realized it was a different strain. Just like all these swine flus and bird flus that have mixed genetic info making them super strong and people have no resistance. This Ecoli can only be gotten by eating raw food or coming into contact with body fluids of someone who has it. Germany's dialysis units are all full. I am praying for Germany.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-1092605831189623702011-06-01T16:26:23.872-04:002011-06-01T16:26:23.872-04:00WV -
You are exactly right, re: "...days of ...WV - <br />You are exactly right, re: "...days of Noah" scripture and as you say, those days appear to be drawing to a close. <br /><br />Alice - <br />I think its very hard to be precise - and I see the WWI era as a bell shaped curve as far as the first "bolus" of signs that all spiked together. They weren't entirely in "sync", as the war started, and then the pestilence, famine and quakes lagged by a few years (these began during the war, but towards the latter part)....So, at best, I believe we could guess somewhere in the neighborhood of 1916-1921. <br /><br />Thats my best guess. And also - for the Church - that may be as close we we get. Remember - Jesus said that everything would happen "within" this generation - not necessarily in the last hours of the generation. And to add to that - as far as the last possible days for the Rapture, we have to shave 7 years off of whatever the timeline is. <br /><br />That brings us very close IMO.Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00403649419538752058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-88810329588530456402011-06-01T16:03:35.130-04:002011-06-01T16:03:35.130-04:00Scott, from where (time-wise) do you measure the b...Scott, from where (time-wise) do you measure the beginning of this generation?Alicehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03440990812353695096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-28878345159305663672011-06-01T15:55:17.270-04:002011-06-01T15:55:17.270-04:00The stock market took a big noes dive today and th...The stock market took a big noes dive today and the Drudge Headline was "We are on the verge of a great great depression" <br /><br />Scott everything in your links today are screaming we are near the start of the tribulation and as a result even closer to the "catching away" of the saints. I am super excited after coming here this afternoon. I don't want to make any predictions other than, I sense our nearness to our experiencing our "blessed hope" <br /><br />The Jewish spring feast/pentecost would be fine with me! I hope to be seeing everyone soon.<br /><br />"As in the Days of Noah... people were eating and drinking and given in marriage"<br /><br />The "Business as usual" era is drawing to a close IMHO!WVBORN56noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-67409320027243304082011-06-01T15:20:27.712-04:002011-06-01T15:20:27.712-04:00SUE
Its interesting that you mention the 120 year ...SUE<br />Its interesting that you mention the 120 year reference from Genesis..>SO many people neglect to see that.<br /><br />It is also interesting that this era's generation is approaching 120 years (there are a number of people alive who are between 110-120). <br /><br />In fact, IMO, the direct link to the Genesis mention of 120 years is in the context of Noah, and Jesus gave us the passage "as in the days of Noah"....To me, this is the most direct and the strongest link to a "generation". <br /><br />But as you say - the Rapture is dependent upon NONE of those facts. The Rapture has been "imminent" since the day of Pentecost IMO. (at least 'technically').<br /><br />Bottom line, IMO - is the only thing that fits to this day - is the fact that we are at the very end of the generation - and we are very close to the beginning of teh Tribulation, and we are very very close to the gathering up of the Church. <br /><br />Maranatha!Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00403649419538752058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-32454163931500097542011-06-01T14:46:16.724-04:002011-06-01T14:46:16.724-04:00Hello Scott
Thanks for your prompt reply! I have ...Hello Scott<br /><br />Thanks for your prompt reply! I have been pondering this for a while now. It does appear as if I was making a definite statement about this, I’m not, its just hard to describe what I mean. <br /><br />If I explain that Pre-trib Robert Dean takes the same view as Showers. He has said that all the signs and events we call ‘birth-pangs’ from the WW, have no connection whatsoever with prophecy, as they are future. By claiming them now, he sees as being ‘Historicist’ and inconsistent with the Futurist view of Pretrib. Its as you said “Some folks (IMO) don't see this overlap and believe that Jesus was ONLY describing the Tribulation Period in Olivet” <br /><br />He may be implying that we are giving signs for the Rapture, which of course is not the case. All the signs concern the coming 70th Week – its just that as we are still here, the signs are recognisable but the Rapture still remains imminent as they are nothing to do with the timing of that event, it COULD have come and gone a few years ago.<br /><br />Yes; the first judgments (Seals) are the last stage of labour, an increasing, intensifying continuation of what we have seen since the WW. However the consistent Pretrib Futurist sees them as the very beginning of labour! <br /><br />I am very, very unsure about ‘generation’; not yea or nay; I am unable to get a handle on it properly if it’s as you say (and David Reagan) or if it refers to the Jews as a people alive in that era, those particular Jews will see the completion of all things. It bothers me when I remember it was 120 years at the time of Noah, I don’t want that to be the case.???? THEN I have to remind myself that the Rapture is absolutely, completely and totally IMMINENT whatever happens good, bad or indifferent!<br /><br />MARANATHA!<br />xExpected Imminentlynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-30455642905051220202011-06-01T12:57:52.827-04:002011-06-01T12:57:52.827-04:00Mainly though I see it like this:
IF Jesus was on...Mainly though I see it like this:<br /><br />IF Jesus was only referring to the Tribulation, throughout the Olivet Discourse, (ie, referencing a 7 year period only) then use of the word "genea" would have been bizarre and highly atypical - its almost impossible to find any use of "genea" as a 7 year period. <br /><br />Secondly, I believe that the most common use for "genea" is exactly how we use "generation" today - ie, a lifespan. (I could elaborate, but for the sake of brevity) - which in today's world is in the neighborhood of 100+ years. (Don't forget....Prophecy for the Nation of Israel often has very specific timeframes...For the Church, prophecy rarely (if ever?) has specific timeframes..)<br /><br />And we have a lot of "data" historically, to support that view, beginning at WWI's era. And cycling through from then until now. Exactly as Jesus stated. <br /><br />We are now almost at the 90-100 year mark now (depending on where you would arbitrarily begin the generation). <br /><br />But back to the original point, and agreeing with Fruchtenbaum, here, The Tribulation would be the final stage of labor-->Delivery. In other words, the labor pains go way up in intensity (notably and undeniably) - signalling the birth. <br /><br />So in that regard, I believe the first judgments are, correctly, representing that last stage of labor - not the beginning of signs.Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00403649419538752058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-19578262692199464312011-06-01T12:51:12.244-04:002011-06-01T12:51:12.244-04:00Sue,
I'm not sure exactly what you are inquir...Sue,<br /><br />I'm not sure exactly what you are inquiring about (first part of comments above) - but if this touches on it, let me know:<br /><br />I believe the birth pains analogy was (in context) was being applied to ALL of the signs that Jesus had just described. And Jesus had just described the entire period - from the "beginnings of birth pains" all the way through the Tribulation and the Second Coming (all of which, Jesus had just described). <br /><br />So...Having said that, above, I believe that the first four (six actually) seal jusgments are not only the beginning of the Tribulation, but a dramatic extension of the earlier signs. <br /><br />This is the reason that the first judgments look like a repeat of the general signs that Jesus gave in Olivet. <br /><br />Some folks (IMO) don't see this overlap and believe that Jesus was ONLY describing the Tribulation Period in Oliver.<br /><br />I don't believe this for many reasons. (I may exceed the limits of this note so I'll continue below)Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00403649419538752058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-19821373945192266212011-06-01T12:03:17.293-04:002011-06-01T12:03:17.293-04:00Hello Scott
For your consideration.
Pretrib has r...Hello Scott<br />For your consideration.<br /><br />Pretrib has rightly taught that prophecy is future! Some Pretribs., like Renald Showers teach that the signs of Matt.24 are one and the same Seals of Revelation 6. To claim that the birthpangs are happening NOW as per AFrucht; sees the historical view as replacing the futurist view. That concern is reasonable IF the Matt 24 signs are also the Seals of Revelation?<br /><br />1) Similar does not = same.<br />2) There has to come a time when what WAS future becomes present and a part of history.<br /><br />That’s how I see this problem. While the Scriptures are similar; using the same ‘type’ of disasters (how many types can there be?)<br /><br />Jesus said that these signs were effectively ‘Non’ signs and to be expected. Indeed many false Christ’s did; and still do, arise e.g. bar kochba sp? and Yung Sun Moon since Jesus ascended to heaven. The emphasis is on ‘MANY’ false christs, which is plural. They are all part of the ‘spirit of anti-christ’ that has always been present. This is what Matt.24. is referring to. <br /><br />It is said that as Satan does not know when Jesus is to come, he has always had several possibilities lined up throughout history e.g. Alexander the Great to Mussolini; Napoleon to Sarkozy; Hitler to Bin Laden and many more besides. Once the Restrainer (of lawlessness) is removed, then Satan has ‘A’ for THE man (singular) primed and ready to go when Jesus breaks the first seal.<br /><br />IF the ‘birthpangs’ that are happening now were the ‘Seals’; that means Jesus has broken the first one (at least) and the world has entered the last seven years of history and billions have been slaughted etc. The Seal signs cannot be NOW, and future, at the same time as one Postie I know insists. <br /><br />Lawlessness is STILL being restrained by the Restrainer; A/c has no name; the Temple is not operating or the two witnesses who cause a drought for 3 ½ years. Yes, they DO come in the first 3 ½ years because they are given 1260 days ONLY, then are killed by the beast at the MID point of the Week at the AoD (5th & 6th Trumpet).<br /><br />The Seal judgments of Rev.6 remain future while the ‘birthpangs’ of Matt.24 are already part of our history since the two WW; and are steadily increasing toward the openings of the seven Seals and the Rapture remains ‘imminent’.<br /><br />God bless<br />Sue<br /><br />P.S. I shall give my usual, weekly ½ a Cucumber a miss for the time being; and no more Wasabi EVER! Shame :(Expected Imminentlynoreply@blogger.com