tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post5045340968487776271..comments2024-03-28T16:05:02.847-04:00Comments on PROPHECY UPDATE: The Gog-MaGog Alliance: Strengthening as PredictedUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger53125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-24401914976792490252011-09-19T01:48:36.074-04:002011-09-19T01:48:36.074-04:00(Here is part of the non-copyrighted item Sarah ci...(Here is part of the non-copyrighted item Sarah cited. Reactions? Amanda)<br /><br /> PRETRIB RAPTURE SCHOLAR WANNABES!<br /><br /> by Dave MacPherson<br /><br /><br /> To become a PH.D (Pretrib History Distorter) or a D.D. (Doctrinal Deviant), do the following:<br /><br /> (1) MISSPELL THE LAST NAMES OF MANUEL LACUNZA, MARGARET MACDONALD, C. I. SCOFIELD, HAL LINDSEY, GRANT JEFFREY, TIM LAHAYE ETC.<br /><br /> (2) STATE THAT MARGARET MACDONALD WAS A PLYMOUTH BRETHREN MEMBER, OR THAT JOHN DARBY WAS HER PASTOR.<br /> Wrong and wrong.<br /><br /> (3) OR GUESS THAT MARGARET WAS AN IRVINGITE, OR THAT EDWARD IRVING WAS HER PASTOR.<br /> Wrong and wrong again.<br /><br /> (4) ASSUME THAT MARGARET MACDONALD ORIGINATED "DISPENSATIONALISM."<br /> This "straw man" assumption by Jack Kinsella ("Is Dispensationalism a Recent Doctrine?," 8/11/11) is totally missing from all genuine scholarship, and Jack can't find her even mentioning that long word!<br /><br /> (5) CLAIM THAT MARGARET'S PRIVATELY CIRCULATED 1830 RAPTURE "REVELATION" TAUGHT ONLY THE POSTTRIB VIEW.<br /> Longtime No. 1 pretrib rapture leader John Walvoord's "Rapture Question" proves (p. 105f) that Margaret's view (that only PART of the Church gets raptured) has long been a widely held form of the PREtrib view - and Charles Ryrie's 1981 "rapture" book and other pretrib works have purposely ignored Walvoord!<br /> Margaret's 1830 "revelation" saw "the one taken [before Antichrist's revealing] and the other left." The PART of the Church left on earth after the rapture was viewed by her collectively as "the Church" - the same wording used in the same way by later partial rapturists! (Google "X-Raying Margaret" and "Edward Irving is Unnerving.")<br /><br /> (6) REPEAT THE FALSEHOOD THAT JOHN DARBY WAS DISPENSATIONALISM'S "FATHER."<br /> Darby wasn't original on any crucial aspect of that system including the "church/Israel dichotomy," the church being absent from a future "Jewish" tribulation, the "Jewish" book of Matthew, the "literal method," the "Gentile parenthesis," the "ruin of the church," and especially the "pretribulation rapture." Margaret was the first to "discover" pretrib in the Bible and she shared her novel interpretation only privately with others (spring of 1830). Rev. Edward Irving and his followers, who credited Margaret, were the first to publicly teach it (September of 1830) in the Irvingite journal "The Morning Watch." Darby didn't clearly express pretrib until 1839 - and when he did he plagiarized the exact same Rev. 12 "man child caught up" argument Irving had publicly used eight years earlier!<br /><br /> (7) TRY NOT TO REPRODUCE MARGARET'S 117-LINE PRETRIB RAPTURE "REVELATION."<br /> But if you do, copy it like Thomas Ice who in 1989 copied it so quickly he somehow omitted a total of 49 words from different sentences - the same 49 words that Tim LaHaye left behind in his 1992 book "No Fear of the Storm"! LaHaye (pp. 168, 207) also came up with two different titles for Lacunza's famous old book - neither one correct! (Google "Thomas Ice (Bloopers)," "America's Pretrib Rapture Traffickers" (which reveals that Ice's "Ph.D" was issued by a school that was fined by the state of Texas for illegally issuing degrees!), "Pretrib Expert John Walvoord Melts Ice," and "LaHaye's Temperament."<br /><br /> (8) DON'T LET YOURSELF QUOTE ACTS 2:34-35, ACTS 3:21, OR I THESS. 1:7-8.<br /> Why? They prove that Christ can't leave heaven ahead of time for a pretrib rapture!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-37770806769075431002011-09-12T02:43:47.048-04:002011-09-12T02:43:47.048-04:00I've got something for you prophecy fans. It h...I've got something for you prophecy fans. It has the title of "Pretrib Rapture Scholar Wannabes" & I found it on the "End Times Passover" blog (hosted by Joe Ortiz) on Sep. 4th. Google "Scholars Weigh My Research" to see how leading scholars have viewed MacPherson's years of research in Britain etc. He is the only historian I know of who has dedicated more than 40 years to examining the exact beginnings of the pretrib doctrine. Lord bless you. SarahAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-12447383715420568202011-09-06T21:31:49.785-04:002011-09-06T21:31:49.785-04:00Hello Scott
Finally I have read this thread in it...Hello Scott<br /><br />Finally I have read this thread in it's entirety!<br />That was mighty impressive m'Lord;<br />I could nigh feel the ground shake beneath me feet as the Holy Spirit swept by like a billowing sail.<br /><br />All neatly interjected by Caver and DrNofog; I am sure they had their mouths open in admiration as I did. I can imagine the effect you would stir up if you ever have more time to devote!<br /><br />Great ideas from Paula; please pray about it - I have always thought the same about 're-inventing the wheel'and what a benefit it would be to link to your own 'stuff' similar to the side-bar. e.g. MM's 'prophecy' would be a useful addition. If Paula is willing and able to take that load and run with it ... so long as YOU don't have more on your shoulders.<br /><br />God is blessing you Scott, it's exciting to behold!<br /><br />Otherwise, Maranatha NOW! <br />Sue<br />xExpected Imminentlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15138222881636511924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-34698736352651641922011-09-06T20:36:06.798-04:002011-09-06T20:36:06.798-04:00Hello GG
(((((((Humungus hug back)))))))
You are...Hello GG<br /><br />(((((((Humungus hug back)))))))<br /><br />You are so kind and gracious; I DO appreciate you, your comments and your loving prayers.<br /><br />Please know what a difference they really make. <br /><br />I nearly missed this and I would hate to ignore you - although it may seem that I do when I am lagging behind when Scott keeps us SO busy, bless His heart.<br /><br />Hope and pray you are getting to know more and more of God's precious Word, AND applying it to all of life's situations. This is the 'work' of our Faith He desires from us. (Faith without 'works' is dead James 2:18,20,26)<br /><br />Love and blessings sweetheart<br />Sue<br />xExpected Imminentlyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15138222881636511924noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-73760033138318462512011-09-05T23:07:11.597-04:002011-09-05T23:07:11.597-04:00Hi Sue & Mrs. C-
Just bringing you both close...Hi Sue & Mrs. C-<br /><br />Just bringing you both close in my heart and mind all the while giving you a much needed hug. ((((. BIG HUGS ))). ,May this week grant you much peace, safety and wisdom in all you must face. I am praying for continued renewed strength and a continually restored mind and claim you are fully restored in the sweet name of Jesus!<br /><br />God Blless!!<br />GGGGnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-88487620982472930542011-09-05T22:05:24.293-04:002011-09-05T22:05:24.293-04:00The best I can gather, from her vision - is seeing...The best I can gather, from her vision - is seeing the Church living on earth at the same time as the 'trials' and the existence of the AC...So if ANYTHING regarding the rapture was in view, by definition, it would have to be a post-trib, not a pre trib.....And thats a stretch. But it certainly doesn't reveal ANYTHING about a pre-trib rapture.Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00403649419538752058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-40538997192167187912011-09-05T17:13:08.299-04:002011-09-05T17:13:08.299-04:00Cont
When I say, they are looking from the cross,...Cont<br /><br />When I say, they are looking from the cross, I feel that there is much in it - they turn from the blood of the Lamb, by which we overcome, and in which our robes are washed and made white. There are low views of God's holiness, and a ceasing to condemn sin in the flesh, and a looking from him who humbled himself, and made himself of no reputation. Oh! it is needed, much needed at present, a leading back to the cross. I saw that night, and often since, that there will be an outpouring of the Spirit on the body, such as has not been, a baptism of fire, that all the dross may be put away. Oh there must and will be such an indwelling of the living God as has not been - the servants of God sealed in their foreheads - great conformity to Jesus - his holy holy image seen in his people - just the bride made comely by his comeliness put upon her. This is what we are at present made to pray much for, that speedily we may all be made ready to meet our Lord in the air - and it will be. Jesus wants his bride. His desire is toward us. He that shall come, will come, and will not tarry. Amen and Amen Even so come Lord Jesus.''<br />END OF MARAGARET MCDONALD'S VISION<br /><br />If you have managed to read through this tedious tome, you will see there is NO mention of a Pre-Tribulation Rapture as claimed by MacPherson. <br /><br />Every blessing <br />SueExpected Imminentlynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-72719674534389777662011-09-05T17:11:11.011-04:002011-09-05T17:11:11.011-04:00Cont.
I felt as Elijah, surrounded with chariots o...Cont.<br />I felt as Elijah, surrounded with chariots of fire. I saw as it were, the spiritual temple reared, and the Head Stone brought forth with shoutings of grace, grace, unto it. It was a glorious light above the brightness of the sun that shone round about me. I felt that those who were filled with the Spirit could see spiritual things, and feel walking in the midst of them, while those who had not the Spirit could see nothing - so that two shall be in one bed, the one taken and the other left, because the one has the light of God within while the other cannot see the Kingdom of Heaven. I saw the people of God in an awfully dangerous situation, surrounded by nets and entanglements, about to be tried, and many about to be deceived and fall. Now will THE WICKED be revealed, with all power and signs and lying wonders, so that it it were possible the very elect will be deceived - This is the fiery trial which is to try us. - It will be for the purging and purifying of the real members of the body of Jesus; but Oh it will be a fiery trial. Every soul will he shaken to the very centre. The enemy will try to shake in every thing we have believed - but the trial of real faith will be found to honour and praise and glory. Nothing but what is of God will stand. The stony-ground hearers will be made manifest - the love of many will wax cold I frequently said that night, and often since, now shall the awful sight of a false Christ be seen on this earth, and nothing but the living Christ in us can detect this awful attempt of the enemy to deceive - for it is with all deceivableness of unrighteousness he will work - he will have a counterpart for every part of God's truth, and an imitation for every work of the Spirit. The Spirit must and will be poured out on the church, that she may be purified and filled with God - and just in proportion as the Spirit of God works, so will he - when our Lord anoints men with power, so will he. This is particularly the nature of the trial, through which those are to pass who will be counted worthy to stand before the Son of man. There will he outward trial too, but 'tis principally temptation. It is brought on by the outpouring of the Spirit, and will just increase in proportion as the Spirit is poured out. The trial of the Church is from Antichrist. It is by being filled with the Spirit that we shall be kept. I frequently said, Oh be filled with the Spirit - have the light of God in you, that you may detect Satan - be full of eyes within -be clay in the hands of the potter -submit to be filled, filled with God. This will build the temple. It is not by might nor by power, but by my Spirit, saith the Lord. This will fit us to enter into the marriage supper of the Lamb. I saw it to be the will of God that all should be filled. But what hindered the real life of God from being received by his people, was their turning from Jesus, who is the way to the Father. They were not entering in by the door. For he is faithful who hath said, by me if any man enters in he shall find pasture. They were bypassing the cross, through which every drop of the Spirit of God flows to us. All power that comes not through the blood of Christ is not of God.<br /><br />ContExpected Imminentlynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-86411184650189224372011-09-05T17:06:58.473-04:002011-09-05T17:06:58.473-04:00Margaret MacDonald false prophecy.
Claimed by Dav...Margaret MacDonald false prophecy.<br /><br />Claimed by Dave MacPherson to have been behind J.N. Darby’s so called ‘theory’ of a Pre-Tribulation Rapture of the Church.<br />What follows is the version of Margaret Macdonald's revelation as published in ‘The Restoration of Apostles and Prophets’ in the ‘Catholic Apostolic Church’(1861).<br /><br />Part 1.<br /><br />MARGARET'S REVELATION "It was first the awful state of the land that was pressed upon me. I saw the blindness and infatuation of the people to be very great. I felt the cry of Liberty just to be the hiss of the serpent, to drown them in perdition. It was just 'no God.' I repeated the words, Now there is distress of nations, with perplexity, the seas and the waves roaring, men's hearts failing them for fear. Now look out for the sign of the Son of Man. Here I was made to stop and cry out, O it is not known what the sign of the Son of Man is; the people of God think they are waiting, but they know not what it is. I felt this needed to be revealed, and that there was great darkness and error about it; but suddenly what it was burst upon me with a glorious light. I saw it was just the Lord himself descending from Heaven with a shout, just the glorified man, even Jesus; but that all must, as Stephen was, be filled with the Holy Ghost, that they might look up, and see the brightness of the Father's glory. I saw the error to be, that men think that it will be something seen by the natural eye; but 'tis spiritual discernment that is needed, the eye of God in his people. Many passages were revealed, in a light in which I had not before seen them. I repeated, 'Now is the kingdom of Heaven like unto ten virgins, who went forth to meet the Bridegroom, five wise and five foolish; they that were foolish took their lamps, but took no oil with them; but they that were wise took oil in their vessels with their lamps.' 'But be ye not unwise, but understanding what the will of the Lord is; and be not drunk with wine wherein is excess, but be filled with the Spirit.' This was the oil the wise virgins took in their vessels - this is the light to be kept burning - the light of God - that we may discern that which cometh not with observation to the natural eye. Only those who have the light of God within them will see the sign of his appearance. No need to follow them who say, see here, or see there, for his day shall be as the lightning to those in whom the living Christ is. <br />'Tis Christ in us that will lift us up - he is the light - 'tis only those that are alive in him that will be caught up to meet him in the air. I saw that we must be in the Spirit, that we might see spiritual things. John was in the Spirit, when he saw a throne set in Heaven. But I saw that the glory of the ministration of the Spirit had not been known. I repeated frequently, but the spiritual temple must and shall be reared, and the fullness of Christ be poured into his body, and then shall we be caught up to meet him. Oh none will be counted worthy of this calling but his body, which is the church, and which must be a candlestick all of gold. I often said, Oh the glorious inbreaking of God which is now about to burst on this earth; Oh the glorious temple which is now about to be reared, the bride adorned for her husband; and Oh what a holy, holy bride she must he, to be prepared for such a glorious bridegroom. I said, Now shall the people of God have to do with realities - now shall the glorious mystery of God in our nature be known - now shall it be known what it is for man to be glorified. I felt that the revelation of Jesus Christ had yet to be opened up - it is not knowledge about God that it contains, but it is an entering into God - I saw that there was a glorious breaking in of God to be.<br /><br />contExpected Imminentlynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-80398339797101440692011-09-05T14:50:44.326-04:002011-09-05T14:50:44.326-04:00DrNo.....I said a few days ago that a lot of the p...DrNo.....I said a few days ago that a lot of the prophetic things that we watch - in terms of fine details, aren't worth arguing about or, with me, not really worth 'debating'...<br /><br />But when it comes to pre-trib rapture, end of this age, Jesus imminent return, and some 'big-ticket' items like that, I believe they are worth 'robust discussion'...:)<br /><br />These things are very important IMO - and should be based on SCRIPTURE and scripture alone, and nothing else.<br /><br />With that in mind (see, you got me started back up again :), as I said, I have seen these same 'arguments' for almost 30 years and I see people like you and continue to point out he vast array of scriptures pointing to a pre-trib rapture, yet these get ignored and the strawmen arguments get perpetuated over and over and over and over and over and over --- in the face of all scripture and all logic. <br /><br />I really don't understand it....Macpherson's "big book" that allegedly shot down the pre-trib rapture spent > 50% on the Macdonald thing....To me, this is both disingenuous and overtly false. This has been proven over and over....Similarly, with the argument that "the early church didn't discuss it...it was started by Darby" --- makes me want to jump off the roof!<br /><br />Again...Something disproven again and again and again - yet it is guaranteed to come up - Every single time. <br /><br />ANd lastly - I have never ever had them discuss every scripture that pertains to a pre-trb rapture. They never get answered. Never. Rather - we see the same old tired 'arguments'....<br /><br />It can become, at times, somewhat frustratingScotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00403649419538752058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-26138135733465320722011-09-05T14:48:36.567-04:002011-09-05T14:48:36.567-04:00That the early church was Pre-Trib Rapture is real...That the early church was Pre-Trib Rapture is really, historically, beyond dispute, but the prophecy of Daniel's 'Key' to the End Times takes precedent. So, along comes Augustine, who was briefly into chiliasm 'til <b>his antisemitism got the best of him</b>, so he found a quick fix for writing the Jews outta the picture. <br /><br />The allegorical amill concoction has been THE major stumbling block for centuries til God began revealing that THE literal Israel had to be back in the land & Russia had to become a nation instead of mongol hoards running around all willy-nilly & to become a world power on top of it all! <br /><br />So here we are today... I think 'Scott' summed it up quite well, so I'll leave it at that, except to point out that the allegorical method is quite ancient; Genesis 3:1 I think it is:<br />"Did God <i><b>really</b></i> say that??"DrNofoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00776844238120339240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-38532567368671988942011-09-05T14:24:35.642-04:002011-09-05T14:24:35.642-04:00Scott unloads a full broadside and dusts his hands...Scott unloads a full broadside and dusts his hands off thinking "That'll keep 'em busy for a while bailing, as they take on water..."<br /><br />Welcome Bruce n Jan! <br /><br />As you can see, and contrary to what others say about us, we do have a lot of fun over here.<br /><br />It takes a little bit of doing, but if we tweak him up just right, every now and then, we'll gain some interesting insight into the man of mystery behind the 'alias' Scott...<br />;-DDrNofoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00776844238120339240noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-70965072148953235102011-09-05T13:01:18.354-04:002011-09-05T13:01:18.354-04:00Bruce-Jan
Sorry if I came across as harsh in these...Bruce-Jan<br />Sorry if I came across as harsh in these descriptions and explanations - not my intent....I have been having these same discussions for the better part if 25 years and I can let frustrations leak out.<br /><br />The problem is - I haven't, in that period of ~ 3 decades ever received reasonable responses to these scriptural arguments and continue to see the same "points" by post-and mid- trbbers for all those years. I have to wonder why the scriptures don't make the points as they seem clear and self-explanatory to me. Oh well.Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00403649419538752058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-60700962672197358142011-09-05T12:03:26.050-04:002011-09-05T12:03:26.050-04:00Paula,
Many thanks for the kind offer.....Let me d...Paula,<br />Many thanks for the kind offer.....Let me dig around and see if I can even find those corresponding PP presentations....Or consider some other alternatives -Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00403649419538752058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-80920687924470564622011-09-05T11:42:30.439-04:002011-09-05T11:42:30.439-04:00Ya know, Scott, if you wanted a "static"...Ya know, Scott, if you wanted a "static" site separate from the blog for your audio/video and text documents, I could make that happen...<br /><br />And ifn you wanted such a site with your own domain name, I'd pay for it myself and customize it, as some token of appreciation and support. Busy with a couple projects right now but should have them done in a week or so.Paulahttp://www.fether.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-81155286793712579332011-09-05T11:24:33.845-04:002011-09-05T11:24:33.845-04:00Paula
I have the powerpoint 'slides' that...Paula<br /><br />I have the powerpoint 'slides' that go with the audio's...I have been considering posting those...Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00403649419538752058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-31151351528117923112011-09-05T10:59:13.076-04:002011-09-05T10:59:13.076-04:00Scott,
The audio of course is excellent but a lo...Scott, <br /><br />The audio of course is excellent but a lot of people want text to read, for one reason or another. Do you have transcripts?<br /><br />Also, would it be possible to have a section on the sidebar for those links you just posted? What I think will be the easiest for the most people is a handy index like that, which won't be lost in the flow of the blog.Paulahttp://www.fether.netnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-28467827621642592011-09-05T10:41:43.727-04:002011-09-05T10:41:43.727-04:00One more point....The beauty of the Pre-Trib raptu...One more point....The beauty of the Pre-Trib rapture, is the fact that it answers ALL of these questions, and there are no "gaps" that have to be 'explained away'...No scriptural gymnastics are required. <br /><br />One can take a literal view with the pre-trib doctrine, and with such - the scriptures have complete consistency and complete harmony...<br /><br />This doesn't exist with any other view.Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00403649419538752058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-80611310230543448042011-09-05T10:40:02.282-04:002011-09-05T10:40:02.282-04:00More problems with a post-trib or mid-trib rapture...More problems with a post-trib or mid-trib rapture:<br /><br />- There are a VAST array of scriptures pointing to the "imminent" return of Jesus ("imminent" meaning that it could occur at ANY time.....This can ONLY point to a pre-trib rapture. Otherwise, the entire doctrine of imminency is destroyed, as in that scenario (the post or mid trib scenario) there is NO IMMINENCY. <br /><br />How does a post-tribber reconcile that?<br /><br />Also...<br /><br />With a post trib rapture - when does the "wedding" take place?<br /><br />We know that the Church is also known as the "Bride" of Christ. <br /><br />Revelation 19 clearly shows the "Bride" as being in Heaven (Rev 19:6-9)....If the Bride is already in heaven, preparing for the Wedding Supper of the Lamb, how can they also be on earth?<br /><br />Where are the descriptions of the Church being "protected" during the Tribulation era found in the Bible?<br /><br /><br /><br />Who were the 12 elders, seen with the "Victors crown" (Rev 4) if NOT a representation of the Church?<br /><br />Who would have received judgment and have already been rewarded for works on earth (at that point in chronology) if not the Church? IOW - who would have rec'd the "victors crowns" before the Tribulation even begins?<br /><br />I could go on an on, but I'll stop here :)Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00403649419538752058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-21460078091183533532011-09-05T10:29:32.093-04:002011-09-05T10:29:32.093-04:00May I suggest the following reading materials whic...May I suggest the following reading materials which may enlighten:<br /><br />1. Maranatha, Our Lord Comes" by R. Showers<br /> and the following links may provide some study assistance:<br /><br /><a href="http://www.raptureme.com/tt10.html" rel="nofollow">The Rapture and the Second Coming: An Important Distinction</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.raptureme.com/tt14.html" rel="nofollow">Examining an Ancient Pre-Tribulation Rapture Statement</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.raptureme.com/tt3.html" rel="nofollow">Morgan Edwards: Another Pre-Darby Rapturist</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.raptureme.com/tt7.html" rel="nofollow">Perhaps Today: The Imminent Coming Of Christ</a><br /><br /><a href="http://www.raptureme.com/tt1.html" rel="nofollow">Necessity of an Interval Between the Rapture and the Second Coming</a>Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00403649419538752058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-39637049129067789082011-09-05T10:18:43.289-04:002011-09-05T10:18:43.289-04:00Jake
The two audio presentations on the Rapture o...Jake<br /><br />The two audio presentations on the Rapture of the Church in the upper right hand corner of this site explains the basis of the pre-trib rapture.Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00403649419538752058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-58053865726943190272011-09-05T10:14:52.732-04:002011-09-05T10:14:52.732-04:00AMEN Mrs C !!AMEN Mrs C !!Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00403649419538752058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-49250861802503353572011-09-05T09:45:18.757-04:002011-09-05T09:45:18.757-04:00I was reading this interesting article on
Biblic...I was reading this interesting article on <br /><a href="http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/End%20of%20the%20World/pretrib_proof.htm" rel="nofollow"> Biblical proof of pre-trib rapture</a><br />Blessings!<br />amann marienoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-12892050638934799122011-09-05T09:37:18.895-04:002011-09-05T09:37:18.895-04:00The Tribulation Period is not intended to purify t...The Tribulation Period is not intended to purify the Church. Only the blood of Christ can wash us clean of the iniquity and sin.<br /> Amen!Mrs. Cnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-22158932144302221072011-09-05T09:34:45.873-04:002011-09-05T09:34:45.873-04:00Caver LOL....Its just that the pertinent questions...Caver LOL....Its just that the pertinent questions RARELY get answered - the use of "straw-man" arguments...The lack of scriptures as contrasted with unbased "declarations" which are not scripture based such as "The church will be here at Jesus 2nd coming"...Huh? There aren't ANY scriptures which reveal this - but only a blanket statement. These thngs are SO common and Ive seen these 'arguments' a thousand times over the years and they don't hold a drop of waterScotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00403649419538752058noreply@blogger.com