tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post3630346515238593383..comments2024-03-28T14:36:47.257-04:00Comments on PROPHECY UPDATE: In The News:Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger80125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-91597163142486451972012-06-06T19:05:39.762-04:002012-06-06T19:05:39.762-04:00Mato - let me know when you want to discuss this i...Mato - let me know when you want to discuss this in a systematic manner and I'll be glad to reopen this.<br /><br />This has become circular and redundant and for some reason, you still, despite my attempts, refuse to discuss the large body of scriptures that point to imminence. You still refuse to disclose what your agenda is, or what your belief is regarding the relative timing of the rapture etc.Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00403649419538752058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-29169533855752761122012-06-06T19:02:39.653-04:002012-06-06T19:02:39.653-04:00Agree Caver.Agree Caver.Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00403649419538752058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-19328706951027864642012-06-06T19:01:47.544-04:002012-06-06T19:01:47.544-04:00Praying for peace and clarity and healing for this...Praying for peace and clarity and healing for this anon/Mato. <br /><br />Anger and disgust are in the rear view mirror. Sympathy and prayer is needed now. <br /><br />This is beyond rational behavior.Cavernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-84668819206362995252012-06-06T19:01:00.625-04:002012-06-06T19:01:00.625-04:00Also - did you happen to catch my comment about th...Also - did you happen to catch my comment about the timing of Jesus discussions with Peter and when Paul introduced the mystery? (I know, I'm brealing my own 'rules' LOL) - Discussions that Jesus had with Peter, prior to Paul's introducing the Rapture doctrine are completely irrelevant to the doctrine of imminence with regard to the Rapture, but I digress...<br /><br />I'd also like anwers to my questions re your obsession. <br /><br />Do youreally think you;re going to come on here with one scripture, some snarky comments and hidden agenda and convince ANYONE of your POV?<br /><br />If that is your goal, lets discuss some better ways that you may want to approach the topic in the future, on this board or other boards. Seriously.Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00403649419538752058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-59849209673297730082012-06-06T18:56:55.889-04:002012-06-06T18:56:55.889-04:00Mato. I made it clear how we would discuss this an...Mato. I made it clear how we would discuss this and you keep refusing to acknowledge this. I really don't have much more time for this - I need to get to the news of the day etc. and it was a long day at work today. I have other things going on besides this discussion believe it or not :)Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00403649419538752058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-87278866269007772852012-06-06T18:49:28.296-04:002012-06-06T18:49:28.296-04:00Did you just delete your post and my response scot...Did you just delete your post and my response scott?<br />This is becoming immature.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-48699511989157515192012-06-06T18:45:22.407-04:002012-06-06T18:45:22.407-04:00btw, Mrs. C, I meant "moot point" not mu...btw, Mrs. C, I meant "moot point" not mute point! LOL, its been a loooong day!<br /><br />MelAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-1313263790091977212012-06-06T18:42:05.894-04:002012-06-06T18:42:05.894-04:00And I have said thie before and I'll say it ag...And I have said thie before and I'll say it again. Why is this such a point of obsession with you? I never ever even consider going to mid-trib or post-trib sites to argue my POV....Why do you feel SO obsessed with coming over here to push your doctrine?<br /><br />You can hold whatever beliefs that you want - thats your decision, but honestly, this obsessioon borders on pathological. Seriously. I don't get it. <br /><br />And your refusal to take up the main body of scriptures which point to imminence is perplexing to say the least.Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00403649419538752058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-26274832584125933722012-06-06T18:41:16.833-04:002012-06-06T18:41:16.833-04:00Mrs. C, you are so right..its not a mute point in ...Mrs. C, you are so right..its not a mute point in those terms. I just meant that one day no matter when the rapture happens we can all look foward to being with Jesus. We all should remember to put on the armor of God, now in these days more than ever. Love you all as my brothers and sisters in Christ.<br /><br />MelAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-74629916321298771962012-06-06T18:39:35.382-04:002012-06-06T18:39:35.382-04:00Anon/Mato - please read my post which I explain th...Anon/Mato - please read my post which I explain the way we will discuss this...Its about 4-5 posts above. Many thanks.Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00403649419538752058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-57638595887535219052012-06-06T18:20:31.129-04:002012-06-06T18:20:31.129-04:00Hi Brother Scott,
Mato...the pre-wrath untruth......Hi Brother Scott,<br /> Mato...the pre-wrath untruth...and it looks like he/she is trying for 100 posts again...:(<br /><br /> God Bless!Mrs.Cnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-32171951114041146842012-06-06T18:14:12.109-04:002012-06-06T18:14:12.109-04:00Additionally, Anon - what is your overall agenda h...Additionally, Anon - what is your overall agenda here?<br />Why don't yoy just come out with it, rather than playing games with this? <br /><br />What is your overall point of view?<br /><br />Are you pre-trib? Mid-Trib? Post-Trib?<br /><br />What is your ultimate point here?<br /><br />My beliefs are completely open, obviously. I'm not trying to hide behind word games nor am I trying to mask my views. <br /><br />This seems to be some kind of game with you and it is most unbecoming, to be completely honest.Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00403649419538752058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-33572641608720145922012-06-06T18:11:11.304-04:002012-06-06T18:11:11.304-04:00Anon - GG posted those scriptures above (again)......Anon - GG posted those scriptures above (again)....Lets take those up and then we'll get to the early church writings then we can get to the tangential scriptures.<br /><br />By the way, you do realize that the Apostle Paul introduced the topic of the Rapture after the events took place in the book of Acts, and he introduced it as a "mystery" which meant that it was a new revelation - something which hadn't been previously introduced. This postdated any discussions that Jesus had with Peter - But I assume you know that :)<br /><br />I also assume that you realize that the Rapture of the church applies to the body of believers only.<br /><br />Now, lets take a look at those scriptures relating to Imminence shall we?Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00403649419538752058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-2477741191454113202012-06-06T18:03:15.633-04:002012-06-06T18:03:15.633-04:00Sigh!!......hey everyone, everytime we get in to t...Sigh!!......hey everyone, everytime we get in to this argument again and again, a bible verse keeps coming to mind and I think I just found what I have been thinking of.<br />2Timothy 2:14 "Remind everyone about these things, and command them in God's presence to stop fighting over words. Such arguments are useless, and they can ruin those who hear them."Please forgive me if I am way off base, and do not understand truly what is being said but bear with me as I type the notes my study Bible has to say about this verse.<br />Paul urged Timothy to remind the believers not to argue over unimportant details or have foolish discussions because such arguments are confusing, useless, and even harmful.False teachers love to cause strife and divisions by their meaningless quibbling over unimportant details (see 1Timothy 6:3-5)<br />If we are all going to meet someday and live together for all of eternity, let's just praise God for all He has done, and keep our focus on Jesus, whom really is all that matters in these troublesome times. Love to you all, and if I <br />piped in with something that does not even make sense, just ignore!marynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-50605649914677474222012-06-06T16:52:40.308-04:002012-06-06T16:52:40.308-04:00Agreeing with you in Prayer Sister GG! Amen!
God ...Agreeing with you in Prayer Sister GG! Amen!<br /> God Bless You Sis!Mrs.Cnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-85442556843463702512012-06-06T16:51:00.712-04:002012-06-06T16:51:00.712-04:00By the way, when I post as "anon" its be...By the way, when I post as "anon" its becase I am at a remote location and I'm too lazy to log in to my act :)<br /><br />Anon - you crack me up. First of all, you attemts at the medical analogy are....well.....um.....lets just say "non-medical"...I assume you aren't in the field :)<br /><br />Lets go back to the crystal clear analogy w/o your twisting.<br /><br />I made the point that when a fracture is obvious from x-rays and physical exam, such information makes other, tangential information irrelevant. In this case, the type of fall and/or the degree of pain is vastly overruled by the objective information. You seem unable to grasp that analogy.<br /><br />Secondly, like always, you REFUSE to discuss the body of scriptures and early church writings that overwhelming argue for imminence. You CLING desperately to the 1-2 scriptures that you obsess with, and absolutely refuse to even DISCUSS the larger body of scriptures.<br /><br />And yes, this is exactly what I have seen for years in the mid and post tribs groups.<br /><br />Then you try to bait me by attempting to argue that I can't answer your questions (whuch, by the way, I can - easily) - but I refuse to allow you to dictate the terms of this discussion. You need to dictate the terms by discussing your tangential and relatively meaningless scriptures becaue its crystal clear that you have no answers to the larger body of work - which by the way are the scriptures that so many scholars discuss yet you refuse to do so.<br /><br />Why is that Anon?<br /><br /><br />Normally, I would delete, but the absurdity of this is so apparent that I'm going to leave it up.<br /><br />Now...I'll say this ONE MORE TIME<br /><br />If you are willing to have an adult discussion relating to the main body of scriptures that point to the doctrine of imminence, then we will do that, and move on to the more tangential scriptures such as the ones you propose. <br /><br />Anything other than the above will be immediately deleted - just a forewarning because this is quite tiresome, and I have other things to do.Scotthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00403649419538752058noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-6234896650711862422012-06-06T16:47:05.787-04:002012-06-06T16:47:05.787-04:00This comment has been removed by a blog administrator.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-2028146029625797112012-06-06T16:42:58.091-04:002012-06-06T16:42:58.091-04:00Hi Brother/Sister Mel,
I agree with your statemen...Hi Brother/Sister Mel,<br /> I agree with your statement. It is only Gods Word and the Holy Spirit that feed us the Truth in His Word. <br /> I have to respectfully agree on one comment though. Between Brothers and Sisters, we can discuss, study His Word together. However it is not a "mute point". We are very, very close to the Coming of Our Lord, Our Bridegroom, and it is the enemy, that at this critical moment in time, is using Brothers and Sisters against each other.<br /> It matters greatly, as there are thousands of undecided folks, that read this Blog. When someone comes on trying to force their false beliefs, causing strife, and being deceptive at any cost, it has horrible repercussions. Teaching the false belief of Mid-Trib - Post- Trib, has no hope what so ever to those who have yet to accept Jesus as their Savior. It is a false teaching, that we are to go through the Trib, or in the Trib right now. This is Spiritual warfare, which Jesus warned us would come at this moment at the edge of time. Silly us, just never expected it from our own "Brothers and Sisters", but it is rampant out there, especially in cyber land where they cant resist the temptation to hide and deceive behind a keyboard...<br /><br /> God Bless!Mrs.Cnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-74411173541668055792012-06-06T16:21:55.541-04:002012-06-06T16:21:55.541-04:00Dear Brothers & Sisters~
If many are availabl...Dear Brothers & Sisters~<br /><br />If many are available right now I would like us to join together and pray against this wicked spirit that is running rampant on the board. I believe this can help tremendously so when Scott does return with a healthier prospective it can be well received.<br /><br />Anon-I find it odd that you would perceive the sharing of scripture in the same light as the statement "like flicking spitballs". We must move on from this folly and those with a sincere interest will see it that way. The word of God is pure, the only way it can be used is for encouragement, truth and light as well as a weapon to chase off the evil one. If that is the case here, there should never be any offense taken at the word of God unless it strikes a nerve to the core. Scott will be back later with a better prospective on this.<br /><br />God Bless!!<br /><br />GGGGnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-16519008902582077792012-06-06T16:07:44.130-04:002012-06-06T16:07:44.130-04:0056 posts and counting...are you going for 100 agai...56 posts and counting...are you going for 100 again? You go round and around...and have no humility what so ever...its all about you, right MATO? But we know you go by more than just the name Mato, dont we. So rude, manipulative, and disrespectful to Scott and others for that matter, then there will be the “oh Im so innocent”, then the “victim”. Truly, so predictable. What ever happened to your accent? That’s how you started here, with an accent, and whew, Im not the only one who noticed it just seemed to vanish. <br /> How long now? 6 MONTHS of this! 6 MONTHS of trying to force feed others that we are in the middle of the Trib! We ARE NOT in the middle of the Tribulation, there is NO Pre-Wrath! Nuff said…not taking the bait…Mrs.Cnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-1039891954177491992012-06-06T16:04:14.827-04:002012-06-06T16:04:14.827-04:00would you like to know the Day or the Hour?would you like to know the Day or the Hour?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-39291436647258531332012-06-06T16:02:39.186-04:002012-06-06T16:02:39.186-04:00here is your error Anon..I (and Im assuming many o...here is your error Anon..I (and Im assuming many others) do not go after teachings of men, I do not follow men's logic. I follow God's Word and the Holy Spirit. When I was younger, I was in a false religion. No matter how many times Christian people tried to reason with me or tell me the truth and error of my beliefs I would have none of it...it was not until GOD HIMSELF intervened in my life and saved me that my eyes were opened. What Im trying to say to you is that our beliefs are different obviously than yours. No amount of "reasoning" as you see it will make me question my beliefs, and I honestly think no amount of "reasoning" on our part would change yours. It will only be through God. So give it up, move on, pray for enlightement...in the end it doesnt really matter does it? All born again Christians will one day be with our Lord, wont we? If Jesus should decide to come tomorrow or come in 10 years...the outcome will be the same...its written in stone. Our fates are sealed. Argueing about when and what ifs are mute points. God bless!<br /><br />MelAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-45269396244548396592012-06-06T16:01:37.196-04:002012-06-06T16:01:37.196-04:00Im thinking 'ALL these folks is acting crazy i...Im thinking 'ALL these folks is acting crazy including the ones flicking verses like spit balls. For shame!<br /><br />Hey! Im as bad, I just read the garbage. Wheres the REAL Doc Scott when hes needed. DELETE for pitys sake.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-39621752530988700812012-06-06T15:54:12.540-04:002012-06-06T15:54:12.540-04:00GG,
I understand his position.
If they cannot hear...GG,<br />I understand his position.<br />If they cannot hear a shout, how would they hear the whisper.<br />If they would not admit to a simple truth, how would they understand prophecy.<br /><br />This is how i understand the doctrine of imminent return.<br /><br />If you want to know, I'll come back in December.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3432851080052468710.post-9550554139711216072012-06-06T15:44:18.730-04:002012-06-06T15:44:18.730-04:00Alrighty Then Anon~
Right there, you don't wa...Alrighty Then Anon~<br /><br />Right there, you don't want a humble approach, but want to attack another poster and do not wish to wait. The intent is showing clearly here. I hope you will wait as in life some of us must and the Dr. will be in soon. I had hoped differently but silly me, something greater is going on here and I will be praying for you.<br /><br />God Bless!!<br /><br />GGGGnoreply@blogger.com